He is already confused. How are we going to confuse someone who is confused?

I agree that his unwillingness to to move out of his comfort zone is a huge problem. I also agree that he is over thinking it. His overall problem is his lack of inner game.

A lot of this stuff is stuff he needs to know about. Understanding what leads up to a kiss or how to kiss a girl in certain situations(especially when he has ended up in this situation multiple times) is always key. If he has been in the situation multiple times he obviously needs some guidance or some concept of what he should do when he is in this situation again.

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Good looks don't mean shit if you don't have the balls to back them up, and kissing really isn't a big deal once you get used to it. I've been blown off twice, but ironically they were two girls I was barely attracted to anyway. It's not like the movies where the tall model looking guy can consistently get laid, despite all he does is shower girls in compliments & act like a pussy.

My method:

If she's laughing, having fun and seems to be into you, simply grab her hand, spin her around and go in for a proper kiss. If at any point you're asking yourself "should I kiss now?" the answer is YES. When you begin thinking about it, the time is right.

I understand the first few times you do it, its nerve wracking. BUT even if you get blown off, DON'T pout like a little bitch. Persistence is SEXY (not to such an extent that you're a stalker though). Shrug it off and try again in 10 minutes.

It's important to know that even if you get blown off, you'll get desensitized to the anxiety associated with it. So you have nothing to lose.

Small real life story: my current girlfriend blew me off the first time I tried to kiss her, I shrugged it off and tried again literally 60 seconds later. SUCCESS. Later that night we were making out like crazy and she even wanted me to fuck her, but the venue at the time was well below my personal standards for such a thing lol.

Right now we are a very happy couple and basically, we're both nymphos hahaha.

Bro I am in your EXACT position.. gamer in hs lost weight and ended up good looking with alot of wit.. i get alot of ppl asking me to hang out and attraction from girls is VERY common.. but i feel that same disconnect from the person i am socially vs the person i am alone. when i txt a girl if i don't say something witty or funny i feel like a failure.. even my best friend says.. "Dude you don't ALWAYS have to be witty and funny!" apparently i'm like that whenever we go out.. but around him it comes and goes.. i don't know. a part of me is afraid that if i hang out with a girl enough she will see me for who i really am and not like me.. even though that person they meet is me.. the best me.

OK as simple as it gets...

what ever you two are doing (obviously looks like you know how to get girls close to you proximity wise)

if your spooning...say turn around, and KISS HER.
if your done singing a song say stay there... walk up and KISS HER.
if shes sitting on your bed...grab her and KISS HER.

Girls can tell when guys want to kiss. Just do it!

I had a HB9 tell me the other day, I loved it how you just grabbed me and went for it!

They want it. Confidence is key. Dont even care what happens.

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Hey all - I Figured I'd post here as a last ditch effort to define why my relationships are doing so much worse than usual. Since my last post things have gotten worse - and I've started to just feel depressed.

I haven't been given another oppurtuntity to bring a girl back to my room and I sense that I've been making a lot of girls feel uncomfortable for the last two weeks. I had one girl that I tried to kiss twice - My friend and her roommate left her room and we were alone for a solid 10 minutes but nothing came of it. Even still, I felt like we had a good energy going around and I'm proud of myself for being honest with how I felt at the time and going for it. I wish I knew why she didn't reciprocate though.

Lately, I sense that to women that I casually meet I tend to either come off as to aggressive (either through words, eye contact, ect.) or gay. At least when I come off as gay women don't mind being around me.

Oddly enough, approach anxiety is usually pretty small for me but I have noticed that I feel anxiety later on in the interaction, when most people are supposed be feeling comfortable. I can't tell if this is a form of sexual anxiety or if I'm just not used to having hot girls want to be around me.

A huge problem for me has been that when I run out of things to talk about with a girl , or people in general, and they have nothing to say either I don't know where to put my eyes. I've tried just looking through the person but I feel that it's been coming off as too aggressive. Sometimes I stare off into the distance - but I don't know what to stare at.
If anyone has any specific exercise for me to try I'll do it - I feel like I may as well be gay or asexual.

Haha man you are far from gay. Dont think like that its terrible. Your the SHIT. Beleive it. One reason i find that I had troubles with girls and probably you are too is because you are not being yourself. Congruence with your actions to your personality is important. Be yourself, and know what that means. Know yourself. Continue to grow your social skills. Dont try to pick up and try to attract every single girl, but grow yourself socially with them by acting normal and fun. You will look back on this soon and know that this did in fact get you better success with women.

Have a good one man!

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