does any one have any advice on how to approach a girl when your both dancing .
i dont want to just go up to her and start grinding her cause that just seems a bit creepy. but saying that if the club is too loud for usual openers what should i do ?

any advice is appreciated .

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you don't approach on the dance floor unless your body language is very smooth and your looking good. that's a tough game.

cheers

I'd say go for it. You'll never learn if you dont try.

I like to dance upto girls from nearby and once you've held eye contact for a short time I dance with them, and look for an opportunity to start kino (should always be holding hands whilst dancing (in my opinion)). Dance with her until a slow song comes on. Now it can go either way from here. Watch for her reaction. She'll either show excitement in the next song or show a complete lack of interest. Now, if she likes the song, do some slow dancing with her, get cosy until you can k-close. BUT if she doesnt show interest NEITHER DO YOU. Tell her you're [both] going outside/to the bar/get some air etc *and smile at the end of that*

EG
"c'mon, let's go get some air"

Then you're on your own with you're own game

Lemme know what you think dude



GrifterUK!

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cheers mate some good advice here. a coiple of points though, firstly when you say " dance near her " should my body be facing her or away ? i always feel like im intruding if try to dance with a girl if she with a group of her friends.

and secondly how do you think the best way to first take her hand is ? initiate eye contact facing her and then take it ?

the get some air opener , very nice

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I've just reread what I put and I couldn't have left it much more vague sorry dude.

Basically "nearby" is anywhere were the HB can see you. Preferably dance with your body facing her direction (give or take 45-90 degree's either way). The body direction is less important than getting eye contact and smiling at her for that moment you do. Also when that happens I like to check out a girl (keeping the smile) so she knows your interested. This may come off as "letting her know too much" that you are interested in her BUT it actually shows that she has to pass tests to dance with you. Plus the fact that she DOES pass (After all your letting her fance with you) gives her a bit of positivity towards you. Essentially you complimented her on passing your first test.

As for dancing with a girl who's in a group, as long as your smiling and not looking creepy etc they'll enjoy their friend having fun.

Taking a girls hand is one of the easiest things to do, don't sweat it. Hold you hand/hands out palm facing up. Then look from her hands, your hands and her eyes until she takes them. If she hesitates and looks at you in what I can only describe as a doubtful kind of way, just give her a tilt of a head and a reassuring smile. This has never failed for me. Noone ever taught me this so I might be missing small but necessary parts of this.

If you've got any questions just ask and after you've tried this stuff lemme know how it goes man



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Hey smooth ive found that if you think about it too much it makes it impossible and unsuccessful. Firstly alcohol helps u dont think as much and you just do. Secondly after a confidence boost for example kissin a girl early in the night I felt I could do and approach whoever I wanted. Its all about confidence all I did on the dance floor was make myself noticed and then get close. Simple ways to boost your confidence is get out there and talk to random girls.

I just wish I had the motivation to do this everyday I have my up and down swings wen I go out.

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I forgot to add dont near a girl looking at her waitin for somethin to happen that is what every guy does. Start making yourself noticed by everyone hot or not it doesnt matter. a simple hey and smile as you walk past them onto the dfloor gives u a reason to go back to her in a few minutes. I hope ive been helpful

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grifter and goldenreliever thanks for taking the time to give me such awesome advice , youre both chaps

just waiting for pay day now and ill be back out so ill let you know how it goes.

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I usually just get onto the dance floor, and dance for dancing's sake without thinking about whether I'm trying to pick up the girls or not. Just dance up to girls, show them your moves with some good eye contact and smiling (no biting the lower lip like a typical AFC...), and if she makes eye contact/smiles back, I move on up and dance a little with her.

From there, I'll make light kino and she'll either start grinding on me, or show limited interest, in which case I'll move on to the next girl.

Don't think you're going to pull the first girl you dance with, in fact I'd say 80% of the time you need to move on after a different song. If she makes up an excuse (bathroom, going to bar, etc) I usually interpret this as working one girl too long. If she seems like she's moving away from you, find the next closest girl and keep dancing.

The object, at least for me, is to demonstrate social proof by showing that I'm just there to dance and have a good time, and I can do so easily.

A lot of the time you'll get the pull after you've danced with a bunch of the girls in the same group. If she sees you dancing with her friends, a girl will be more comfortable with you than if she thinks you just came out of nowhere and are targeting her alone. It's just a lot of pressure for her.

On the dancefloor, I have a lot of succes when I have a good winggirl. That means: a good, cute or hot sponteneous and slightly flirtatious female friend who is willing to dance with you. And with dancing I mean salsa, smooth dancing, and maybe even dry humping.

Dance with her near a group of other girls, and they will notice you. They will think "who is that beast who dances with that lucky girl? I wonder how big his dick is". In short, they are very intrigued. You show them that you are good with the girls, and they will look at you. They will be very willingly to dance with you!

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as i'm new to the forum and PUA tactics i hope that i won't make a mistake with posting this here.
ON THE DANCE FLOOR. i have to say that i'm very good at salsa ( to the point that i've been offered free tickets to salsa workshops and party ). the problem is that i can get a girl on the dance floor, dance with her sensually and all but the conversation is at rock bottom. I just don't know how to play it right not to make and idiot of myself. I've recently noticed a girl that is my type ( saw her twice at local salsa night ) and also noticed that she was eyeing me couple of times.
so my question is how to play it right not to blew it? play it cool, dance with her, maybe ask her name or something and leave it till the next time. Or just go full steam like she is doing brilliant and looking great and i would be happy to teach her more, buy drinks and ask straight away for her number?

i'm total newbie here on this forum and recently ended relationship which i had big problem to get over

what i do on the dancefloor:

first look for a 2 or 3 set to dance with
pick your target.
dance with my back against her back for a vew seconds, if she dances against me, i give her a little push with my ass.

most of the time they do this back. i turn around, give her my hand, make her do a spin, and while she does this, i make sure she lands her arm on my shoulder.

and done, you are dry fkin the girl:) some nice eye contact ( dont look to drunk ) and go for kiss close.

worked a lot of times for me.

excuse me for the bad english it aint my main language.

In my experience of dance floors and dancing with girls, i have no problem dancing, i would even go as far as saying that i am a great dancer with good rhythm and a good energy and girls love to dance with me. However, how can i tell the difference between a girl just looking for a good dancer to pair up with or if she's interested?
*when i say dancing i don't mean salsa or anything like that, just casual dance moves*

Looking forward to hearing your advice guys, Thanks!

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Her noticing you first is preferable, if the approach feels mutual it feels better. (Sixty)

Physical opener:
-Hi5: Eye contact, smile, high five. ->
-Spin: Eye contact, smile, then either A. Grab her hand / B. Motion for her hand, and spin her (Make sure she pulls her hand back first, if she doesn't, great.). ->

Small notes:
-Even if her body / facial language deny you when making eye-contact, still try the physical openers, on the dance floor girls tend to always have some kind of bitch shield, sometimes you can destroy that bitch shield instantly by simply doing the opener right.
-Girls are on the dance floor to have fun (usually) so make sure what you're doing isn't interrupting that fun, preferable making it more fun. I haven't yet found a situation where I'd approach on the dance floor and could skip the social phase and go right into seduction.


Personal experience: Don't even try any kind of verbal game, make her have some fun, hit off with the tension, and when you want to talk just take her off the dance floor.


Let us know how it went.
-ZeroValley.

If a girl dances with you, there's interest.

A lot of PUAs are great at over-complicating things, and sometimes I agree that situations are complicated, but this one really is that easy. Girl dances with you, game her.

-ZeroValley