I don't think it matters because asking for direction is a close ended question that requires a simple answer that is very hard to start a conversation with. What do you think?

You could ask for directions -> ask if she works around here -> if yes talk about her if no you can just branch off into a story and then take it wherever you want from their.

Day 5:

Today i attempted demonic confidence day 14. I had massive AA during the morning and ended up doing 0 approaches. Then came the afternoon and i decided fuck it so I left the house and went to the mall...

In the place I live the malls are pretty empty unless its the weekend, so it was tough finding girls to approach.

I did 13 out of the 30 expected approaches.

Opening with:
Hey, quick question
Closing with:
Do you want to have coffee with me sometime?

Yep 2 sentences, and the deal is you had to approach HB8+
and if you got a girls number you cant keep it, you have to delete it.
Results:
I got rejected 12 times, most of the girls always smiled like I complimented them and said no sorry.
One of the girls, was like wtf? I dont even know your name.

Another wanted to give me her number, but her boyfriend was inside the shop, and it was to risky

The girl I number closed was smoking hot and i was considering not approaching her, but in the end I said fuck it and did it. I guess having balls pays off

This was by far the most fun mission in the 14 days ive done of demonic confidence.
And I tired my hardest to complete the day but those were the only HB8s and Up i could find around the mall in the time frame I had...

Im going to go back tomorow and do another 17 approaches, Ill let you guys know how it goes.

Jazz

Points:
You dont always have to open with something witty.
If you really dont know what to say, Use this opener.

Doing lots of approaches and being confident has really progressed my game SO MUCH.

3 weeks ago i would be lucky to have the balls to # close, now I can number close a girl each day.

I completed the remaining 17 approaches and they were all rejections, all the girls i approached were 9 and 10s.

Today I went out and did demonic confidence day 15, one again I really couldnt find any girls... Where the f did they all go?
I could only find 14 HB 8 9 10s. I Number closed a 9, a cute island girl im not sure if shes my type but we are going clubbing this friday.

When I close, I usually try set up a day 2 like hey you look like a party girl, talk about somewhere nice and then ask for the number.
But sometimes I get lost in the conversation and end up saying, 'Ill grab your number and we can be friends"
Not really sure how well the flake rate is as I havent gone on any D2s as yet.

I was opening with, Hey quick question. Do you want to grab a coffee with me?
I got the boyfriend line a majority of the 14 approaches.
I used this opener as part of d15 of demonic confidence, Ill be moving on to D16 2moro as I cant be fucked searching the mall for 3 hours to find another 14 girls, and feel confident enough to progress.

Ill let you guys know how it goes. Finding a HUGE improvment in my confidence.
And recomend everybody out their to try out Demonic Confidence by lucas west and stick too it.

This is my first time on these forums. The last two weeks I've been working on my game and approaching around 20 sets each night I go out.

If you want help with the number close try this, It will work much better than implying anything about being friends. At least it has been for me:
hand her your phone: 'here put your number in'
Your showing the confidence that you deserve her number, and in my recent experiences it's worked a large portion of the time.

Let me know how it goes if you try it out

Just read your post now, funny id started using this. I dont say anything about being friends anymore. I just hand her the phone and she does the rest...starting to realise just how flakey numbers from night game are.

Hi,
I like this forum.
It's so util.
You can try this :
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I'm sure it will be util for you.
Maurice Perreira

Hey jazz25, thanks for the play by play I think this is some really useful stuff. Its like making everyone on this board a better PUA just by reading your stuff. I know its hard to get out there and start sets, I havent been out for a bit myself and think that alot of your info will help when I'm ready.

Thanks again lots of good info!

Hey guys havent had time to keep the thread up to date, been busy with uni, sarging and work.

Ive been going out and night gaming twice a week, once you get the hang of it, its 10x easier then day game by FAR. I reccomend to anyone who can do approaches in the day, to start gaming at night more often... In the day you have to work with the girl in a more innocent situation, at night they're already horny and they will either blow you or blow you out.

For those guys starting night game, I've got a simple opener that will let you social proof the whole club and close girls in a small ammount of time.

What you need:
- A digital camera
- Friend(camera man).

OPener: Hey my buddy an I are on holiday in town, can I get a picture with you?

after you open, move into the middle of the girls, after you take the picture pick your target and your buddy gets the other girl or talks to the obstacles. How long you stay is up to you, you can close within 30 seconds if your happy with that. Making an impression is more important.

With this opener Its easy to close with this because you can say hey ill grab you email and send you the pictures in an innocent way, or if your feeling confident go straight for the number (i prefer numbers over emails.).

Lately I've been experimenting with 60 years of challenge and his theories, his work is golden and requires alot of balls to pull off. I plan to write a field report once I get the hang of it.

Peace, holla or drop me a comment
Jazz

I use allot of openers depending on the situation (I like the dog one XD Going to try that suaterday ! )

but if I can't think of a'n opener for the situation I just open the HB by saying, hey you should of told you you where going to be here, we should have gone together.

or hey I didn't expect to see you here.

now if she doesn't respond positif it doesn't matter you just tought she was someone.
however if she is positif you can neg her by saying, what, you don't remember me ?

afther this just look for IOI's, go into a routine, just pick her up !


Gianni aka. ??? (give me som hint's, looking for a faster cooler name )

hahaha good on you man, let me know how the dog opener goes!

I like how you pretend you know the girl and then turn it around, thats clever. Ill deffo try that 1 in field to see how it goes

Most of the time I dont use planned openers now, I open with anything depending on the situation, 90% of the time i say hey im jazz or hey hows it going?.

Opening is just screening, like you said I just want to see if shes going to respond positively or not, if she does then close, if not then move on. Simple...

I dont look for IOI's... never really believed in that stuff, I take it that if the girl is still standing there talking to me she is attracted to me. Why else would she stay?

I hope the openers in this thread have been helping new guys, I remember searching these forums for days looking for the best opener.

Jazz

Thanks for the kind words man

I'm kind of new, this was my first post and I'm only in the game for about 1,5 months but I'm feeling very advanced allready

I think it's becous allot of guys are here to change there lives I'm here to take mine to the next level.

Gianni.

This is a great thread, and has given me a few different angles to look at. I think i will try to get the "stones" to use some of these. wish me luck! lol

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Yo guys,

What places would you recommend for day gaming?
Have you noticed any difference in how receptive the girls are at different venues in the day time?

Mall, bookstore, gym, playground (if your have a young one with you), maybe a local deli or sammich shop?

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