Sorry Biscione,
Life has been busy meant to get this up 3 days ago for you but didn't have the time to write.

I hadn't seen much of Gambler until Crass brought him to my attention. We operate pretty much the same. Following body language techniques. I started off reading about pick up and realized my problem wasn't that I was bad with girls but that I had no idea I was good with girls, or at least they were attracted to me. So for me I fell into studying body language and courtship in general. I knew all those tricks but they didn't feel quite like me, so I studied more about what to do and WHY things work. If you know why things work your entire perception changes and you realize what can work and what is unlikely to work.

Allowed

Girls always decide what we can and can't do(otherwise rape would be acceptable). We have to make sure she is comfortable with what we are doing. One of the easiest ways is to mirror her. She turns her body slightly so you do. She leans in a little, I actually make them come to me, I may lean over a little bit. She closes the space a little I close the space a little. A girl wants you to escalate at a comfortable rate and if she is doing things toward you, than you are welcome to do them towards her.

A girls pace is generally pretty quick in sometimes. You could end up with your arm around her comfortably within 30 seconds. She is comfortable in moving at a pace. You should follow that pace or you can make her entirely to uncomfortable. Slowly really isn't really a big issue, most pick up artist don't build enough comfort to kiss a girl in 10 minutes. There are some solid ones that do, but most take hours to build a comfort level to have sex. This will be a lot quicker believe it or not. You are building a genuine connection/intimacy/sexual tension at a speed they are comfortable with.

Just Read Them Sometimes

The other night I just read a womens body language and ended up with a kiss, holding hands, and a hug in 3 minutes. I knew this women but she was customer, and I don't even know her name. I was walking by and she sent me signals. She showed a few body cues and I read them properly.

She reached out grabbed my arm, I met her. So when we started talking she was excited to see me she gave me a hug. She kissed my cheek, I realized she wanted a kiss. So I kissed her. She grabbed my hand so I held her hand. All I did was read what she wanted subconsciously and followed suit.

She wanted to touch so she reached out.
She wanted me closer so she leaned.
She showed her full body attention.
She had me come around for a hug.
She gave me a kiss on the cheek.
She hugged me again, keeping me close and creating an intimate moment.

I listened to what I seen nothing more. This was doing what I was allowed to do.

Shy Girls

In some cases a shy girl will need you to be proactive. This happens quite a bit. Remember I specifically wrote a post about shy girls early on because of the importance of understanding that some girls just freeze. With shy girls you tend to need to give them space early on and as they get more comfortable YOU close the space. Most shy girls have a lot of insecurities and don't want to be rejected, so you have to be proactive.

You slowly close the space or escalate the touch with a read on her comfort level. In some cases she will react negatively at first and than realize her error and you just poke fun at her so she can laugh and become comfortable with it. Our first reaction is a lot of times no, so if you learn to sneak in under the radar than you have a comfortable girl who allows you to do more. Shy girls require more effort to be comfortable. Such as hug, kiss, whoopie.

Micro Escalation

Micro Escalations is a perfect word selection for what I mean. You are almost always elevating but with very small actions. Elevation to me is every part of body language not just touch. You are elevating by: eye contact, facing each other, leaning toward each other, isopraxism, closing space, starting to touch, changing where you touch, and building the connection/intimacy/sexual tension. So constantly elevating through all body language movements using micro escalation is a perfect description. I should mention sometimes you must halt the process to build more comfort.

Confident Elevation/Escalation

If you aren't comfortable she won't be comfortable. You shouldn't act confident, you should be confident. Be confident in your Micro Escalation/Elevation. Remember how I mentioned that we tend to feed off each others mood, well if you aren't confident in your body language elevations/escalations she won't be confident in them either. Show them that is ok to be comfortable in this situation.

Two Steps

As I mentioned I am a big fan of 2 steps forward 1 step back. With elevation/escalation this is especially true, you want to test your boundaries here and there. Not often enough to make them uncomfortable but often enough to see how far she will allow you to go. Every once in a while(early on) face your whole body toward her or close space a little than read her reaction as you slowly move back a little or turn away. You are trying to make sure you are moving at her pace so that you can continue to have her comfortable through out the courtship process. That said you need to find out where you stand every once in a while if she isn't showing you what she wants you need to go forward and than go back a little.

Does that make more sense? What do you need me to elaborate on?

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Thanks for the love. Keep it up man. You got any questions ask.

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No problem man, got to share the information I needed. So many of these guys share all this other stuff but they don't share what we need to know about most and that is body language. Understanding and interpreting it correctly is the biggest tool you need in courtship and life in general for communication.

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>>> Poetic

Good stuff. That’s exactly what I needed to know……

Now, us BL newbies are wondering on how to interpret other signals. For instance, if she wants to be touched, she will point her elbow towards you or extend an arm towards you (you wrote on this topic but I want to know more! LOL). Is there a link were we could read more about these examples? When she wants to be kissed, when she wants sex etc….

Also, what we all want to read is one pick up, from start to finish in details. How you picked up on her signals, how you reacted on her signals, what did you say, how you positioned your body etc? You have showed us how to have a proper BL, to read girls signals and how to move things to next level. What a better way to summarize it by giving one example from the field?

BTW. You realize by now how much we appreciate that you are sharing your knowledge with us so I don’t have to praise you every time

Well, thing about it is is they are all intention cues. They aren't things that I have read about on the internet, they are things I got through a lot of books. You guys aren't just getting like one article, one post, one book, you guys are getting a lot of different books, videos, ebooks, experiences, and observations.

It is hard for me to create bibliography on where I got things because I don't necessarily remember where I got what. I have read a lot of books and I usually get at least a few things out of each and every book. It is hard for me to site all of them. If you'd like I can pile up all the books I have read for you it is probably upwards of 20 books, and that doesn't include the books I can't remember because I lost. I read a lot of different books, so even though it may not be pick up related I may have got other things from books. That doesn't include the random articles, cds, and videos I have learned from. Learning through experiences and observations. Some are conversations with psychologists, some are with PHDs, I mean I have learned from every facet I could. I am in the middle of reading at ALL times. I didn't understand why my uncle did it as a kid, now as an adult I understand how awesome it is to learn.

So what I am really saying is it isn't going to be easy for me to tell you where I got it from.

Intention Cues

This is a very special subject, something that is difficult to describe. A lot of time we do things that tell others what we want. Most of the time it is simply by going partially there but not all the way. We fear rejection so we aren't bold enough to finish the action. The easiest way for me to explain an intention cue is to use a some examples:

When you are having dinner with a girl and you are talking she may reach her arm across the table and rest it there. So she isn't going all the way to touch you she is merely reaching out for you.

On Friday in that case a girl reached out toward me saying come over to me and touch me. So I went over to her and obliged. She was reaching her hand toward me with out touching me.

When I was sitting on the couch with that girl watching football she put her hand on her knee next to my hand. She was moving it near my hand. There were plenty of other places to put her hand but she felt most comfortable reaching out toward my hand. She wanted to touch my hand.

When I was at a girls B-day party a bit back I noticed a girls elbow reached toward me. It was a way to not be completely obvious or offer her self completely up. She was subconsciously reaching her elbow toward me. It was the most comfortable way for her to tell me "hey I want you to touch me".

When I hung out with this girl one time we were laying on her bed (she was showing me how comfortable her bed was, and it was amazing), she reached her arm across her bed saying I want to touch you.

I described how I was at a bar one time and we claimed the table at the same time as a couple of girls. They took one corner and me and my friends took the rest. We started talking and I noticed her hand was reached out toward me across the table asking me to touch her. In this case she was reached so far across the table it was literally in my space. I asked to see her ring, and we gave each other a sensual touch and held each other's hand.

This other time me and this girl started holding hands right as we shook hands. She reached out to shake my hand, I realized by the extended hand shake she wanted to hold hands. So I obliged and we ended up touching each other caressing each other quietly.

A girl tells you what she wants with small actions that don't go all the way. Guys do the same thing. We will reach our arms out toward girls when we want to touch them but are scared of rejection. This is a huge problem for all of us starting out.

These things are just small cues people in general do. They are things that are small actions. You need to understand the action before you can assess what it means. Sometimes an elbow out will mean she is protecting her space and even taking up more space. You just need to put the action into context and read the overall body language.

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When a girl wants to kiss she will do several things, but not in all cases. With body language there is no definite answer as everything changes with situation and context. You have to read things for what they are. Most of the time your instinct is right you just don't always trust it.

A girl may in some cases kiss your neck or cheek. This is an intent action, she isn't going all the way but she obviously wants to kiss you because she already did.

A girl may wet her lips repeatedly bringing attention to her lips. She is subconsciously saying look at my soft wet lips (and yes there is an underlying sexual innuendo in there).

She may lean in closer so that she can get her face closer to yours. This is an obvious sign when you guys are close enough it is hard to not kiss her.

When you go to give a girl a hug she may move her cheek up to yours. A face to face hug is rare, so in most cases she is very comfortable being very close to you. This is a sign she is comfortable with intimacy.

You have to pay attention to the underlying meaning of everything a girl does. People don't realize how much they show and they show a lot.

Sex

When it comes to sex you should just always assume the girl is far more sexual than you because she is. I am of the assumption that the goal is to build a connection/intimacy/sexual tension with every girl you target. Keep in mind that girls love sex, they love it, but you also need to realize sexual symptoms are far more suppressed because of societies take on a sexual girl.

This is why your realization that girls are far more sexual than men is so important. You are the person she is talking to and you are the person she may make whoopie with next. You are the person she is thinking in a sexual manner about.

Stroking of a phallic symbol of an item is an obvious sexual signal. A phallic symbol can be anything long and cylindrical. A martini glass, straw, beer glass, pen, pencil, etc. A girl will do this a lot when she is horny.

A girl most of the time will mention sex when it is on her mind. You will hear her make innuendos, sexual references, talk about her girl friends sex. Any time you make mention of something it is because it is on your mind, that includes sex.

A girl may frame her genitals to say look here, I want you to see this. This is her literally saying look at my Box.

Just pay attention because a girl says a lot about her self with actions. They need to be read in the proper context but they tell you everything about their mind if you pay attention. Another instance is a women caressing her leg or her arm, she wants to be touched, rubbed, caressed. We all notice this on tv but none of us pay attention to it in person. This is mostly because in tv they bring attention to that one action.

GEM:

How I get kisses the easiest and most consistently is this:

1. I give them a hug. This is a long hug a minimum of 15-20 seconds, it creates an intimacy. During the hug you want to rub her back softly and sensually.

Optional: Sometimes right here I will say "you smell good". Most girls smell very good and it is a tremendous compliment to receive in an intimate moment.

2. At this point I normally push my cheek a little bit against hers. From there I kiss her neck and than I move back with fluidity and start to kiss her lips.

It is simple and it is easy, when you are already in these intimate hugs it is nearly impossible to deny the kiss. Sometimes it is because you were leaving and now are staying. You just have to find a moment where you hug, if it is an intimate hug it is because you have built the connection necessary to be successful.


Note: If I did a blog on an entire pick up it would probably take literally 3 blogs so that it wouldn't be an entire short story.

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-----Hey guys,

I started 2 facebook pages, Love Signals- Body Language of Courtship and Show Your Mind. I'd really like to build a community of people that understand and love body language, I think that there is definitely a lot we can share and learn from each other. It would be solid if we can all learn from each other. If you'd like you can add me as a friend on facebook, Poeticly Skuac.

Welcome to join, or welcome to hang back and enjoy what I give you here, I will keep writing here. I just think facebook could make a more interactive community. I am very happy so many people are getting so much out of this. I remember how much of an awakening all this information was for me and I still have so much to learn.

Thanks for your guys love, I hope everyone has enjoyed reading it. I still can't believe this topic has become so big, but I think it is awesome that it has.

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I understand what you mean. You need to have some basic understanding of BL and then you try to interpret what she is "saying" by putting it into a contex. Im really intrigued by BL in courtship context and I will definitely explore it more. If I stumble upon smth usefull, Ill make sure to share.

Regarding FB idea I think its good. We could share our expiriences and what we learn in the field.....I dont have FB but Ill create an account to try it out....

I've been lurking around here for a few weeks now. Just starting to get into all this because I'm tired of being a huge AFC. Didn't think I would be making an account or anything but I couldn't help it. I had to thank you for all this truely valuable information you've given out in one easy to read place. I've been reading all this a few times over now and continue to learn and grow from it. I know this is going to help me be the more social more "alpha" person I've been dying to be. I feel lucky to fall upon this information so quickly in my process and I thank you so much. Much appreciated!

Thanks for the love man. I hope you get a lot out of it if you got any questions go ahead and ask.

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Random Stuff

Hands on the Hips- I don't think I mentioned this. A girl in some cases(all girls do this) will stick her hand on her hips in a territorial way. I see this literally at least 5 times a day. When a girl is mad she tends to do this. When a girl is playful toward you she will do it too, you just have to look at the rest of her body language to affirm she is kidding(most girls smile). This is something I do a lot to girls, when they put their hands up on their hips, I will put my hands on my hips and joke with them "getting a little territorial there". I practice Isopraxism basically. You guys should all do this move, it works with crossed arms as well.

Pulling Hair Away- Sometimes a girl will instead of exposing her neck by turning her head, she will pull her hair away to her other side exposing her neck. She will purposely do this to show you a submissive signal. This is one I definitely missed and is huge and easy to see. This is something I seen the other night at the bar, a girl was sending another gentlemen some looks and I noticed her exposing her neck by pulling away her hair. This is a two-fer she is preening and showing a submissive signal all at the same time.

Hands Covering Face- We went over this briefly, if a person did something they are ashamed of a lot of times they cover their face with their hands and tilt their head down. I caught this girl at my work doing it and called her on it. I mean she was talking about an experience and she did this, I said "a little ashamed are you?" Seems so small but it is another you can show her you are paying attention to her. All you do is copy practice Isopraxism and you are creating a likeness attraction.

Passing Me By

Ok guys this is something I want you guys to be a lot more aware of. A girl has several routes to get where ever she is going. Think about that for a second, a girl can walk across a dance floor or to the restroom or to smoke a cigarette any route she wants. She can go around to avoid people, she can take the shortest route, or she can go by people she wants to be noticed by.

How many times of you guys walked by the girl you wanted to talk to? Perhaps you wanted to talk but standing near her was as much as your balls would allow. What do you think a girl does? If she is attracted to a guy she may pass by multiple times to get your recognition. This is in fact the second phase of courtship. Now keep in mind you need other signals but realize that we do a lot of things consciously, that includes walking by the person we are attracted to.

When a girl walks by you she can do a lot of different things. She can give you your space, give you an avoidance space, or she can invade your space. A girl that has plenty of room but prefers to go near you when she walks by may in fact be looking for recognition because she is attracted to you. A girl may be avoiding your space because she is shy or because she is merely avoiding you, you need to read which is which, most shy girls stare down while walking by.

Than you have the girl who walks by and touches, she touches you as she is passing by. Sometimes it truly is incidental, but other times when it is long and drawn out, such as her hand sliding down your arm/leg/back sensually. This girl may look at you and make eye contact, she may cluster this with a preen and a submissive signal. Most girls if they do this will look back as they are walking away within a minute or two. This normally a drunk girl working off her instincts.

The point of all this is a girl does a lot of thinks on purpose. She meant to walk by 5 times, she meant what you felt when she touched you, she meant to invade your space. Girls do things on purpose a lot and you need to take this into consideration when reading any girl. If a girl is making multiple passes and repeated eye contact pick up the signs man she is likely into you.

Think about this we do exactly the same thing, we walk by a girl we want to be noticed by, we will touch a girl as she walks by(not a good way to pick up girls, you just look creepy), we will walk to close when we are attracted to girls. We have very similar behavior during courtship, submissive signals and preening are both done by both sexes. Space is no different we(humans) invade the space of people we are attracted to.

Ask any questions about this. It is a vague statement but I hope you guys realize that people consciously do things to show attraction cues as well. Grabbing attention is all that is happening, it is the first phase of courtship. You recognizing is the second Phase in courtship.

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Pfffffffffffffff....Im an idiot!!!

This drop dead georgeus girl that I know (she is an 11) walked by me with her friend leading her (they took the loooong rute to the bar just to pass me by)....this was in a club...... then she stops by me, has solid eye contact and puts her left hand on my left shoulder and she kept it ther for 1-2 minutes we spoke. she was nice to me with an honest smile....how in the name of god could i miss that??????

i just thought that she was being nice to me. even my friend told me that she was checking me out....friggin' booze really lowers your IQ

as always, good stuff Poetic

Yeah funny shtuff. It sucks looking back, but we can only change the future. Regretting missed opportunities is a waste of time, it is good to learn from them, just don't dwell on them. Now you know for the future.

Booze has its ups and downs. Ups: it gives you courage, it lets you be more outgoing, and you can approach anyone. On the other side of it, you are always unaware, drunk is often unattractive, and your not exactly the smoothest person drunk in most cases. I enjoy drinking immensely, but if you don't know how to handle yourself in moderation than you will be That Guy.

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Yeah, it sucks I didnt pick up her signals but good God!

This weekend I went out and its incredible how many IOI's I spotted. I saw all the preening, personal space invasions, kinos, lips pouting etc and the only reason why I went home alone is coz I was trying to pick up several girls at the same time (got little greedy and overexcited there ). My eyes opened up, like a blind man that re-gained his sight.....

I think that this should be the starting point for every PUA in training....

It should be inner game and body language. Those are the two starting points to me at least. I think a lot of people get started on here with things that don't matter. Learning openers and routines is solid, if it gets you to talk to girls awesome, but it doesn't allow you to understand girls. You should always understand the entire message when you are communicating with someone whether that is courtship, business, friendship, or a relationship. Far too many people lack in body language reading ability, understanding it can change your life immensely.

It is funny when you come to the realization that so many girls in your life already like you and than it is hard not to be confident when you realize how many other girls are attracted to you. I mean I look back and realize that I never ever had a problem really attracting girls it was being unaware and not being proactive with girls that was a huge issue. Now I just follow the signals. They want me to approach, they want me to touch them, they want me to hug/hold them, they want me to kiss them. It is my understanding of body language that allows me to realize this. That is all body language is, it is a realization, or an awareness.

After learning this stuff and gaining some confidence you can clean up. Keep on at it man. It is a great skill that should continue to be polished and sharpened. It will do a lot for you overall in life.

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