Hey guys i am stuck on this one HB9-10 and i dont know how to make her be attracted to me.

It doesnt seems like she is like any other HBs i have met.

At first when i didnt know her she seems like evey other HB that thought too highly of themselves. But after i got interduced to her by my cusins since she is friends/neihbor with them, then i started to see that she is so much different.

For example she does not take NEGs at all. If you NEG her she wont respond meaning she doesnt care what you think or say. I am guessing that is because she knows she is hot and doesnt care about anyones oppinion.

I asked my cusins how i should act around her or better yet what kind of guys she likes.From what i have heard from my cusins they said that i should be nice to her. But a the same time i dont want to kiss her ass like other guys complimenting her and shit.Because there is so many guy frinds she has that do that for already.

So im stuck on how to make this happen. I mean i have aready build the comfort level.
For example she says that once you get to know me you'll know that im a realy nice person blah blah. This came up beacuse i said she was mean. Before we knew eachother her bitch shield was up and after we gotten to know eachother and hung out a bit, now she is a little nicer.

Here is the kicker. We were at vacation for labor day and all of her freinds and mine plus my cusins were there. So her and her freind came by to our hotel, keep in mind they had rented a big house. And I was surprised to see that they came.
So she was parked outside on the red area. My twin brother as usual kissing ass and told her he will go and move the car..Me on the other hand didnt even bother.(SHOWING SOME VALUE)
Now both girls were lying on the bed. Lets say the bed is set up horizatoley and they are lying down virticaly.
So what i did was i lyed on her back with my stomach horizantoly. I was on her for like 5-10 min and she didnt say anything, until she was like if i stay a minue longer she might choke loll. So we were laughing and stuff making jokes and she said why dont you lay on my ass
I was like wtf to myself loll...(keep in mind she has a nice ass). As soon as she said that, I NEGED her at that time saying that "her ass is not soft enough or something in hose lines" loll..
She was like "are you seroius" and i just smiled loll and then I lyed on her ass but on my back for about a couple of minutes then i rolled to the side lyeing next to the them.(Trying to say that im not desperate by lyig on her ass all night)

So we started talking about relationships and what kind of girls i like. So i said im kinda picky about my girls and blah blah..and her freind HB8 said that if ur too picky u wont find ur girl blah blah and i said im not that picky but i got high standards. So the HB10 said something i cant recall what but i said " you dont even talk, you'll the pickest from all of us" and she said no im not picky at all i dont care how the guy looks blah blah and i was like damn noww its my chance to esclade on her but i didnt.. STUPID ME damn..i was like the HB8 is here so i didnt make a move showing her im interested.. I was thinking of saying so since ur not picky then why dont me and you go and a date or do something in those lines..

so here is the problem...How do i go on by fixing this?
Also it seems that she might kinda be talking to some guy..I know the guy and i know that he wants her from the way he writes to her online and shit..I know its not too late but what do you guys think i should do..Ask her to go get some coffe or whatever?? i mean i ave pretty much eveything down. Except i need to show her im interesting and make her want me..I need help here ??? PLEASE ELDERS HELP..


Sorry for the long report.

WTF is up with everyone's grammar???

First of all, man, I couldn't understand half of what you said.

Second, from what I DID understand, it soundsl ike you've already fucked up, but like I said, I couldn't understand half of it.

I only made it a couple sentences because I couldn't focus my eyes enough to read, there were far too many spelling mistakes and you need to put some fucking paragraphs together.

Right off the bat I can tell you that she is just like all other HBs, you just don't understand what you're doing and how to run your game well enough yet. If she isn't responding when you neg her and your cousin's are telling you to be nice, then your'e not negging, you're being insulting. A neg doesn't hurt people's feelings and shouldn't ever have someone tell you that you're being mean if you neg properly. If it was just her, then its possible that she has a massive bitch shield and isn't taking negs the right way, but your cousins told you you're being a dick. You need to work on your knowledge of the underlying psychology behind PU and then you will understand what is insulting and what isn't better.

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All the lines blurred together. Would it be possible to create a few rule for the forum? For example: "Use proper grammar, punctuation, spelling, and capitalization."

It's understandable if you're from another country, but like:

"hi so i was like piking up dis grl and she wz like omg"

Just a thought? Anyway, hi everyone!

I say this atleast once a day THERE ARE NO 10s!!!!

If you find a ten, fuck picking her up, marry her.
Because if she is a 10 you are saying she is hotter than any celebrity you would give your left not to sleep with.

9.9 = less than .5% of females haha

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I think Jessica Alba used to be an 11, but now she's kinda burned out looking (possibly too much tan, or fake tan?). I have seen a 10 here or there, but they're generally just looks and when they open their mouths, they lose that value. There is one girl that I had oneitis over for a long time (I still get a tinge now and then, but nothing actively driving me stupid) and I consider her a 10, but its not cause of her looks, its who she is and I was willing to marry her after knowing her for maybe 2 months (of course I never said this). Ah, the one that got away....

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I asked my cusins how should i act areound her and what kind of guys she likes. That is when they said that i should be nice to her. It wasnt becasue od the way i was negging her. I know what negs are i have studied them well. I guess her bitch shield is set to high or something. I am guessing its because of the fact that she has two brothers and they are over protective of her.

Alos im sorry for the grammer guys.I was in a hurry so i just wrote it quickly.Just tell me which part is now clear.

COMFORT BUILT=Basicly all im saying is that i have build the comfort level with her. Or else why wouldnt she say something when i was lying on her back and the fact that she even told me to lay on her ass.One thing i forgot to mention was the fact that when we were in the pool and we played the chicken fight. She was my partner and we won all the time even against a 200lb guy that knew martial arts. I was trying to show her that if she is with me then she has nothing to worry about, becuase i will protect her. blah blah and she even said damn ur brother is weak i want to chicken fight with You(me).

ATTRACTION= I need help here!.. How to be different or just make her want me instead of me chasing her which i never do. Since she has alot of guys chasing her i try to be the one that doesnt.

lmaoo i know what you mean man. But this girl is excatly the kinda girl that im looking for to marry you know. She is smart, hot, she can cook, she is not afriad of getting down and dirty, and she can protect herself. She knows how to fight loll.. I know eveyones taste is different but to me she is all around good. That is why i dont want to fuck up.

exactly man. A 10 to some of us mean a girl that is perfect for us. Or something around those lines lol

It really bothers me that so many PUAs in training are convinced that they can't be nice and still not kiss ass. It's really not that difficult.

i mean i try to be nice but not that much you know. If i egnore/neg her too much she will just leave, you know. I try to be nice once in a while to show her that i can be. But how do i go by making her to be attracted to me?..
These are what i have covered(As far as looks, i have that covered. Im funny and I have a all around good personality. Besides those, I am working on my negs a little bit. Also i forgot to mention that i have learned some games and tricks to keep her inerested). But what else should i do/learn??

One way of being nice is by complimenting things other than her looks. If she tells you a story about something, compliment that. It'll give her more to talk about and you won't be kissing her ass. Women like to hear themselves talk plain and simple. You can DHV all you want with routines and such, but relating to her with genuine intrest is a major DHV in her eyes. Witty lines won't mean much in the long run if you can't hold a normal conversation.

Build attraction=kino, kino, more kino, push and pull her emotions, play with her. You have to get her emotions involed either by some stories about you or something. Put her on an emotional roller coaster, you know up and down. Make her INVEST herself into you. Keep her laughing and let her know that you are confident in yourself and NOT intimidated by her. All of these things should help to build attraction.

Ya i know that is what i try to do most of the time.I try not to compliment her but something she does. But i love the fact that you pointed out. The part where i should relate myself to her and keep a conversation. I need to work on that part. Thanks for the point

As far as the kino goes, I have that down. I mean she is comfitable is i touch her or W.E. but the push and pulling her emotions i have not done :/..thanks for the tip bro. i guess i need to come up with some stories about me and practice to get them right.

As far as me being intimidated by her, well ofcourse im not and i have shosed her that im not. Since she has two brothers she makes it creal to everyone to watch out and i have made it clear that im not scared you know.

All i need to do is to make her qualify herself to me, You know ... I have done that once during the vacations, where we were talking about relationships and i said im picky and i like a girls thats blah blah.. So she said something, and i replyed saying "you dont even talk, your like the pickest of us all" .So at that point she was trying to qualify erself to me. She was all like "no, im not blah blah. I dont care about looks blah blah" But at this point i frozee and i didnt have a good come back or a neg..I fucked up :/.. or a shit test you know.

Now that i think back, I was wondering if this would of been a good shit test. Something like " Since looks means nothing to you, then why dont you go and flirt or kiss that guy(UG) on the cheek" or do you guys have a better shit test?