Dear all PUAs,
Please take your time to read the story.

There is this girl that I met at the start of the year. At first I approached, started chatting her up, and managed to get her number and MSN easily. I got her out for a movie, went quite good. Then I started receiving HEAPS of IOIs and also the "guessing who each other like" process was initiated. I used her detail as hints in the game (although I was interested in this other girl more at that time), and she pretty much used the most obvious details to indicate it was me. But at the end of the game she said shes too shy to tell me "because I can't tell you without blushing everytime I see you"...So she did LIKE me. She then asked me whether I like her (at the time I don't so I said I like her as a friend but won't fall for her til I know her better)

So then that other girl I was interested in got a BF so I moved on to this girl. So now we have a liking for each other and I started flirting and we gave each other some nicknames...then when I was about to ask her out, a relative fell sick so I had to fly out of the country (for the 2 weeks term holidays) to visit. In that 2 weeks, a player guy (semi-PUA) worked the mystery method on her and hung out with her every single day. (while I was out of the country, we still SPAM every day and she'd tell me about what happened) So anyways she fell for the player guy...Then 2 weeks after that she realised that he was a player. So like 5 minutes after she found out she called me on SPAM and had this massive cry to me...So then I did the comforting pretty well and an hour later she was all happy and saying she loves me :L

In all that time she still continued to show IOIs to me. So around 3 weeks ago, we went to the school ball together (as friends) but like on the day she decides to hold my hand finger crossed and also she was like real nervous next to me. But anyways I tried squeezing her hand and she did squeeze back. (but she said that we going to ball as friends) Anyways, that night at the after ball, I was sober and she kinda got drunk. (but not completely wasted) I was the one who took her upstairs to sleep (cz everyone knows we kinda have this thing) and then she refuse to lie down on the pillow , and instead decides to lie on my chest (paks) and hugged around my waist. She fell asleep like that so i held her. Then after she got up (she was kinda more sober) she leans over and lies on my lap and held my hand finger crossed again (started rubbing it) and fell asleep. The next morning she wakes up she claims that she doesn't remember doing those things...

A week ago I found out from her that she does remember doing those things (dunno whether intended or not) I was wondering whether A Drunken Mind Speaks a Sober Heart ? Also, at the moment she is STILL giving me heaps of IOIs but keeps saying she isn't interested in anyone. (I am soooo confused by this) because she would tell me if she was into someone but she insists on she isn't interested. Also she tells me that she likes me as a friend, but I don't see why she gives sooo much IOIs to me then ...

Any help/advise would be helpful... I was thinking of just going kino on her and see her response ?

THANK YOU ALL

WTF,is this a soap opera?

What are you doing Rryz?

You are confused!!

1 minute,you dont like her,then you like her...

You had like 10 opportunities to lay this girl and you chosed to play dolly-house!

She messed with the player-type guy because he went for it.

She's just stringing you along.

In fact,you're stringing yourself along.

It's different if you were playing hard to get(push-pull)as to build tension.

But you were being hard-to-get out of ignorance.

You're talking about KINO and what to do next,but you had 20 opportunities at KINO'ing.

This girl does not want you not like you.

At first-yes.But as time elapsed,your AFC ways showed up so she's now turned off.

Yes,she may still hang out with you occasionally,but she's placed you in the "HARMLESS" group or LJBFF.

Now,if you do try to KINO and be confident,it will come off as un-natural and turn her off.

Should you give up?

I think you should learn to be confident and work on your inner game.

Stop being womans' tampon where you comfort them!!

WTF are you doing comforting this girl because she feels bad for sleeping with the player.

This isnt Disney man!

This' the real world where you have to be aggressive with women.

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Its not soap opera.

idk WTF I'm doing/supposed to do

Ye I did the hard to get cause she was kinda my backup plan o.O

Whats with all the IOIs then if it was like LJBFF?

and what about the drunken bit?

I shall work on my inner game Master.

So was I suppose to just like hang up -___-?

and she didn't sleep / do anything with the player guy.

She was giving all those IOI's when she thought you were a dominant guy.

Since she's decided you will never pull the trigger or to scared to,there will be less IOI's from now on.

She showed IOI's when she'd liked you as a potential lay until you blew it.

Yes,you were supposed to hang up on her,or cut the comfort thread by subtly changing the subject.

Seems harsh,but having her cry on your shoulders isnt going to get the girl nor the lay.

She will just string you along a the guy who comforts her,while she sleeps with the guys who refuse to comfort her.

Women aren't rational thinkers.

They may say they want a nice guy who they can share thoughts with,walk on beach,a guy who loves her to death...

But when she meets that guy,she'd only use him,treat him like shit while she goes out and fuck all the scum bags and jerks who hang up on her,treat her rough and only calls her once a week.

Now,you can become(or remain)the nice guy who gets nothing.

Or you can become the dominant semi-jerk with touches of niceness who gets everything.

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As mentioned in the main thread like 2 weeks ago what happened and also just the past weeks I've still got as much IOI as before o.O

and also just the question about the drunken part. Is that the sober heart ?

Thank you

Well get active before the IOIl dwindle.

The drunk thing was her using alcohol as a source of blame(plausible deniability).

It's female psychology.

She wanted you to lay her that time.

And if it had happened,she would backward rationlize later(to herelf)and blame it on being drunk.

Thus,you cannot blame her for sleeping with you,because she was suppoedly drunk.

Women do it all the time.

For example:when gaming a girl and she mentions having a boyfriend,she says that(if she's attracted to the guy)in case the guy sleeps with her,she doesnt get the blame of cheating,because she did tell the guy she has a boyfriend.

So the guy gets the blame(she tells herself-it wasnt her fault).

So,if you f-closed her that night she was drunk,she would've blamed it on the alcohol to avoid seeming slutty.

Not all women need to use this mechanism to sleep with a guy.But the more shy she is,she would more use them.

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Well get active before the IOIl dwindle.

The drunk thing was her using alcohol as a source of blame(plausible deniability).

It's female psychology.

She wanted you to lay her that time.

And if it had happened,she would backward rationlize later(to herelf)and blame it on being drunk.

Thus,you cannot blame her for sleeping with you,because she was suppoedly drunk.

Women do it all the time.

For example:when gaming a girl and she mentions having a boyfriend,she says that(if she's attracted to the guy)in case the guy sleeps with her,she doesnt get the blame of cheating,because she did tell the guy she has a boyfriend.

So the guy gets the blame(she tells herself-it wasnt her fault).

So,if you f-closed her that night she was drunk,she would've blamed it on the alcohol to avoid seeming slutty.

Not all women need to use this mechanism to sleep with a guy.But the more shy she is,she would more use them.

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Okay . I'm onto it =] Thank you for your time / teachings.

Still got heaps to learn...