I had a dinner/date with an HB9 last night.

I called her and asked for her address. She said "You're not picking me up. I don't let anybody come by because my dad will scare you with his stare." blah blah blah

I told her that she could give me her address and I'd come there with a smile, or I could pick her up (getting the address from a family member) and not have a smile. Blah blah blah. I told her I'd pick her up at 7.

I get a text saying "Let me know where you'll be and I'll meet you there, otherwise I'm not going". I told her "Ok, I'll see you another day" (bluff). Btw, I don't know her that well, but my family does. And we've hung out and gotten drinks before.

Anyways, she doesn't respond. So I ask "Any change of heart" and she tells me no. She'll just see me another day. Eventually the other couple in the double date tell me to do what I need to to make her come. I tell her where we're going and what time. And say "I'm only conceding because XXXXX told me to be nice to you" "I think I'm also supposed to say...I'd like it if you'd join me tonight".

She said no. She just had dinner. She wasn't going out tonight. "Another day". I broke the bluff and told her I was just being a little cocky. She says "Cockiness boils my blood. And that was more like some Machismo my way or the highway".

**shakes head**.


Moral of the story. Either don't care if the girl goes out with you, or be careful about who you're cocky with. It make KILL your connection.

Now I have to be "me" (who I think she was probably attracted to prior to reading PUA material) and play damage control.

okay dont bother with this woman anymore seriously i think you hit the "deep end" when you declared to go out another night, dont bluff, you cant freeze out a woman you have no investment in, you just come off as an asshat, and saying that xxxx told me to be nice, your not trying to be mean, your trying to get a woman to go out with you, shouldve just met her out somewhere and met the dad another time.

be careful man.

fender43

Thanks for the insight.

We'll see about her. No oneitis her, just a unique blend that I haven't had the pleasure of meeting before and some circumstancial similarities that make her worth just a touch of effort.

But my mottos is...No expectations.

I think you missed the actual moral of the story is know when and how much cockiness with girls.
Why are you being someone you are not?

I believe my statement was pretty self-explanatory. Most PUA methods aren't "me". Or at least I haven't made them "me".

For Pua methods to truly help you, you need to embrase bits which suit your personally, being cocky and talking the micky suits mine, but if it doesnt suit yours you either need to adapt and murge it into your personally or just not do it and murge in bits that suit your personally.

I don't really consider this cocky and funny to be honoust. If you're not using it correctly don't bother using it THAT much...you sounded like an ass. Girls take those things seriously unless they know you're just teasing her and this didn't sound like teasing. Try putting yourself in her shoes and someone would say that to you.
I think she was serious about you picking her up and you should've respected that.

Best thing to do is just make up for it and invite her in a friendly way. i.e. 'hey, about last time I feel I went a bit to far eventhough it was meant in a playfull way. I'm planning on going to X and you're free to come, I'll find a place where we can meet up'. It'll be like an apology without losing your cool or acting desperate. Some people might find it afc but girls are still people and there's nothing wrong with being friendly, because I have a strong feeling this is a nice girl we're talking about.

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Optimistic?

So make up your own. Thats what I do.

Its not the material, its YOU

you have interpreted the stuff you read completely wrong, in this situation you came off as extremely needy and not flexible.

Did you seriously want to meet her dad on the first date? wtf? if you are in need of friends i recommend people your age not dads.
Next time think twice about what YOU want to do, not what material says.

Side note:
Some dads are cool, you could have gone fishing together, had BBQ's where you took the piss out of woman, read porn magazines and smoke fat cigars. But you need to befriend the girl before the dad.

Good luck next time

I wasn't needy nor did I have any desire to meet her dad. Hell I didn't even intend on leaving my car.

There's a playful dynamic and a lot of blunt sarcasm that gets vollied between us. I mistakenly assumed that she'd concede and play along.

She's my brother in law's sis. There's a sense of familiarity that can't be compared to a sarged woman from a bar. Hell, I may have already met her parents actually. It was a dominance test gone wrong.

Im sure he is a nice guy

you pushed too much mate !lol

I consider it to be normal that she doesn't want her dad interfering her business.

Wouldn't like a girl picking me up in front of my door, when I lived at my parents house. If my mam would see that, she'll start to hear me out the next day.

The're many way's to stand your ground. This was the wrong way.

And watch out with texting. Cocky may not alway's be understood, use smiley's when there is even the slightest chance a text can be misinterpreted.

Sorry to hear about this story, to me it sounds like an example of why being cocky without funny often backfires. It's called "C *and* F" for a reason...

woow
I can see myself in your skin trying to be cocky and funny, sounding only as cocky and then wondering what went wrong..
it's a bit of a problem, you need to know that messaging is completely different from talking personally or even phone, because of voice tone and the obivious.. it's really easy to sound like a dick through messaging..
and it feels awful when the cockiness backfires..

first, when this happens, you gotta be cool.. you can't try to act all needy saying you were joking, she misunderstood, blah blah.

I have girls complaining about me being a bit rude with them, even after we are chatting a while and are kinda friends. but I prefer sounding rude than needy..