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Well said and the moral of the story in my eyes is:

Stay away from women with problems if you want a happy life, and happy relationship, with no bullshit you'll have to constantly go back to.
if you follow this advice, you'll never find a woman. they all have issues. it's programmed into them...
Haha funny thing is, I've found loads of women, when I say problems I don't mean everyday problems, so no need for your cockyness! I mean deep problems, let yourself in if you want, because it wont work.

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ah there's still life in this thread, well things certainly have got alot worse for me, she's now suffering from some major depression, luckily we've finished college so we're living miles away for the summer, but the phone calls are terrible.. long pauses, doesn't really say anything, constantly sounds unhappy, doesn't find anything funny and complains at me for various things... honestly when the phone goes off it sends a bloody shiver down my spine in case it's her.

in light of this, i think it may be time to move on. however i'm afraid of doing that at the moment in case she may do something silly. :-/
Now I'll be blunt, do you want her or not? Because deep down, no matter what we say or think don't mean a thing, unless you want the advice and/or take it.

If you don't want her, this really isn't your problem, you need to look forward, be polite, doesn't cost a thing, but you need to move on for your own benefit and think of yourself a bit, or you'll drive yourself crazy.

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Wow, if she's actually bringing you down... well you can only do what you can do to make sure she doesn't do anything stupid, but dont' let her ruin your life.


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I don't want to be a hypocrite, but I want to tell the truth.

Don't be Savior or a Martyr for a woman you are romantically involved with. It will never, ever, ever, ever work out happily for you. It doesn't matter how you feel about her. It doesn't matter if she is hot.

If you don't fix/save her, she will drive you nuts or drag you down.

If you do fix/save her she will leave you in a split second to start her new phase of life.

thats just the way it is. either accept it or learn the hard way.

I think the humane thing to do is tell her she really needs therapy and be honest with her about your feelings so you are not stringing her along.

THEN you figure out why YOU picked this low self esteem woman. Perhaps you could use a little therapy yourself ?
My GF I've been with has LSE issues. I thought something was wrong with me when she said that I was to good for her. After reading I found out this wasn't the case. Like many of you here I have tried re-assuring her and raise her confidence level. She is not moody, demanding or walks around with a poor me attitude. She is a really good person. It's just that she sees herself as a nerd and I tell her she isn't. I tell her she is hot and all that stuff b/c she actually is! The reason I think she is like this is b/c of her chemical inbalance and she is seeing a Psych for this. I'm hoping she can eventually snap out of this state of mind.

There has been some posts of people being brought down when they are with an LSE woman but has anyone had a GF they helped out and then split on them when they were all good? I thought about this and it makes me wonder.


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Interesting post ERida, I'm unsure if there has been a case where someone has split with their GF once helping them through the LSE issue, because surely if you helped them, it's because you cared and do want them.

I'd be more interested for people to share their techniques for helping their GF get rid of their LSE issues.

Some cases, well most in my opinion require the male to go about his life well and as normal as possible as you would without a girl who has LSE issues. This will eventually let her see your okay, not too bad feeling against her and she will probably begin to think she's okay. Another case of push and pull in my eyes, in the right motion of course.

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Guys it isn't worth it, is a girl bringing you down to feel like shit worth it? Do you want to feel like shit? Do you want to feel like your constantly walking on egg shells?

Don't you want to be yourself? Of course you do.

It is not worth it, as stated before by myself, these women will never make you happy, just bring you down. You get one life, be happy, don't let her bring you down, I've been there, and only lately I've been feeling better. Sure i's hard to walk away, but that's the hardest step. Once you start meeting other girls, who are fun and bubbly, you realise things.
My last relationship was like this... Constant negativity.. one simple move to the next wondering if she'll snap over this or that..

Constant feeling of anything i do is not good enough..


It took me a long time to realise that this is a battle i probably wont win.. I just used the mentality

"how does she make me feel?" "terrible, most of the time" "Do you want to feel this way forever?"...... the answer's, no...

It hurts not being with her.. and to be honest she pulled the pin.. but overall i am glad she did.. It was Toxic.. and i could feel it changing me..

Hindsight.. is a beautiful thing..


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Guys it isn't worth it, is a girl bringing you down to feel like shit worth it? Do you want to feel like shit? Do you want to feel like your constantly walking on egg shells?

Don't you want to be yourself? Of course you do.

It is not worth it, as stated before by myself, these women will never make you happy, just bring you down. You get one life, be happy, don't let her bring you down, I've been there, and only lately I've been feeling better. Sure i's hard to walk away, but that's the hardest step. Once you start meeting other girls, who are fun and bubbly, you realise things.
My last relationship was like this... Constant negativity.. one simple move to the next wondering if she'll snap over this or that..

Constant feeling of anything i do is not good enough..


It took me a long time to realise that this is a battle i probably wont win.. I just used the mentality

"how does she make me feel?" "terrible, most of the time" "Do you want to feel this way forever?"...... the answer's, no...

It hurts not being with her.. and to be honest she pulled the pin.. but overall i am glad she did.. It was Toxic.. and i could feel it changing me..

Hindsight.. is a beautiful thing..
Of course, and 9/10 times, looking at the bigger picture is the best thing!

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I've been in a similar relationship - and yes, I felt like crap constantly despite caring about her alot. She was flat pretty most of the time, following the initial honeymoon period which only lasted a week. She would get upset over the tiniest things and I pretty much walked on eggshells.

I suspect she initially repressed all the things that bothered her, then got comfortable and just began making me feel bad. Granted, she didn't have any ill-intentions but the result was the same.

In the end, I got sick of her shit because nothing was ever good enough. I bent over backwards and got no results. I don't think she understands to this day how much effort I put in to accommodate her. I would have been happy to do it if I had seen any results, but I didn't.

She loved me, I loved her, but I ended it. I'm now with a HAPPY girl and things are fantastic.


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I've been in a similar relationship - and yes, I felt like crap constantly despite caring about her alot. She was flat pretty most of the time, following the initial honeymoon period which only lasted a week. She would get upset over the tiniest things and I pretty much walked on eggshells.

I suspect she initially repressed all the things that bothered her, then got comfortable and just began making me feel bad. Granted, she didn't have any ill-intentions but the result was the same.

In the end, I got sick of her shit because nothing was ever good enough. I bent over backwards and got no results. I don't think she understands to this day how much effort I put in to accommodate her. I would have been happy to do it if I had seen any results, but I didn't.

She loved me, I loved her, but I ended it. I'm now with a HAPPY girl and things are fantastic.
Wow, it's like reading a virtual Mirror.. thank god there are others who i can relate too..

Haha, at least now we know what not to go for.


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I've been in a similar relationship - and yes, I felt like crap constantly despite caring about her alot. She was flat pretty most of the time, following the initial honeymoon period which only lasted a week. She would get upset over the tiniest things and I pretty much walked on eggshells.

I suspect she initially repressed all the things that bothered her, then got comfortable and just began making me feel bad. Granted, she didn't have any ill-intentions but the result was the same.

In the end, I got sick of her shit because nothing was ever good enough. I bent over backwards and got no results. I don't think she understands to this day how much effort I put in to accommodate her. I would have been happy to do it if I had seen any results, but I didn't.

She loved me, I loved her, but I ended it. I'm now with a HAPPY girl and things are fantastic.
Wow, it's like reading a virtual Mirror.. thank god there are others who i can relate too..

Haha, at least now we know what not to go for.
Trust me man, you can find a girl who isn't a headcase and love her just the same. It will make your life so much happier.


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I posted this a while ago and when I posted it I decided to take things into my own hands and figure a way out of the mess I was in...why? because I love my gf and although it was a pain that she had low self esteem it also hurt me to see somone with so much potential strugle with slef esteem isuess...wells here is what I have found.

In order for somone to have self esteem they need to have somting to take pride in! my gf didnt have much take take pride in at the time...she wasnt in school, she had a shitty job, every boyfriend she had ever had excluding my self had cheated on her, and she had a poor relationship with her father from a young age...so when why would she feel good about her self? I would prob feel like shit too!

Well the first thing I got her to do was start looking into what she wanted to do in her future (i.e school, work ect ect). She told me she wanted to go to school but had droped out of highschool in grade 11 (she is now almost 21)...well I have now helped her apply to school as a mature student and she will be going to school in jan! you have no idea what this has done for her confedance and confidence and mood! she is so excited about geting an education and so proud of her self!

I also got her a gym membership so she could work out with me (Im a big work out buff), and we have been going to the gym with each other for about 6 months now....well at first she didnt like it but now she loves it! once she started seeing results she was hooked! she has changed her diet, her life style (doesnt drink as much), and she has lost about 15lbs....she even talked about doing a fitness contest in the future...she really does look amazing! and it another thing that has given her alot more self esteem!

Another thing I have found is to hang out with positive people. My gf's old friends are very negative people, also very slutty and really prob dont think to highly of them selfs either....well she doesnt hang out with them near as much and I can deff tell a diffrence!

See what I have found is although you cant make somone change you can deff help them! and if its somone you love it is worth it for their sake and yours!


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Wow its almost as if this were my thread. I have a girl who is exactly the same way. She is never happy, we can go out on the town and have the most wonderful time but the next day she is depressed and complains about it. When I ask her what was wrong with last night she says something like "it rained" or "my feet hurt." or something pathetic like that . She is always so hard on herself and says she hates everything. I am doing all I can to help but it seems she is happy being the way she is. I am considering breaking up but I am worried that I won't find anyone better.

anyway great thread, I have learned a lot from reading these posts.


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Yes exactly!! When I first met her I was super attracted to her and thought of her as high value but now although I love her and love hanging out with her! she seems lower value.

Its weird but I find now that I seek validation from others to tell me how hot she is...its like being reassured that my gf is hot because she keeps telling me she isnt It makes me think....perhaps your not as good of a catch as I once thought?, or perhaps your not as good looking as I once thought? I always wonder "what do others guys think of my gf?" I know it shouldnt matter but I think every one wants to be with a high value person.
if you think about it like this... it is the other way around... you aren't worth her!
she needs a guy who takes her like she is, and know how to make her feel better about herself... study some NLP and try to use it with her... maybe it will help a bit...
but honestly i think she needs profesional help, i got a lot of these cases in my clinic each month... and sometimes its not easy to get rid of it...
or break up and start something with somebody else, who you think has that value you are seeking...


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Happy to see this thread is still going, helped so many people, and will continue too.

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