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Has anyone been reading the Blog outside of Mungo? Is anyone even still interested in it?

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Crass is that a better answer for you?

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Yea It's a good answer. I'll have to try this stuff once college starts back up. Got a week off due to jewish holidays :o


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She Wants Your Number?

This is something that I have noticed that I never really talked about. A lot of times a girl will pull out her phone and look on it when she wants to exchange numbers when you guys are splitting a part. I have had multiple girls pull out there phone and look at it. It is a subconscious signal that they want to exchange numbers. A lot of times I will jokingly make plans with girls and as we are leaving a girl will pull out her phone as if to say hey let's exchange numbers. This is an intent action, she is showing her intent you just have to pay attention.

Something similar is when a girl wants to leave she may pull out her keys. I have had girls do this before. I have had a lot of girls do these type of intent actions in a lot of ways. When we are at the bar we stick our elbow on the bar as an intent to get a drink. This is something that you guys should definitely start looking out for. It is an intent action that pops up with regularity and happens a lot more often than you realize.

I once was talking to this super fly girl(I was actually pretty intimidated by her), we ended up talking for like 2 hours(after she had pulled her keys out). She told me she had to be somewhere and she had to go, this was for seriously like 2 hours. I also made the observation said sorry I can tell you have to go by grabbing your keys. She apologized and said I have to go, I have a lot to do tonight.

I walked her to her car and she had her phone out, she was "looking at the time". She held it out and during this long drawn out good bye, she kept her phone out while she was making eye contact. She wanted my number so we can hang out later because we made plans but didn't exchange info at that point. She was looking at me as if she was waiting. It was a subconscious intent action, intent to get my number. I picked up on this said alright well let's exchange info, I know you need to leave. We hugged and split up.

This is just a good example of how if you pay attention to the signs she will outright be saying take my number we need to hang out later.

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I am glad I answered your question right finally. Let me know how well it works. It should work pretty well.

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Sweet I am glad I have at least a little support. Should I change it or is it helping you at all? Is there anything you would like me to focus on?

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>>> Poetic

Kick ass blog. This is really helpfull with field reports and everything. Keep it up ;-)

Now, you have explained 2 things really well: how to tell when girl is interested in you and how do you use your body language to create attraction. I was wondering if you could give us examples from the field how you used BL to escalate/pick them up? Im talking about detailed description of what YOU did and how you did it to take things to next level.....Kino, body posture, etc...


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>>> Poetic

Kick ass blog. This is really helpfull with field reports and everything. Keep it up ;-)

Now, you have explained 2 things really well: how to tell when girl is interested in you and how do you use your body language to create attraction. I was wondering if you could give us examples from the field how you used BL to escalate/pick them up? Im talking about detailed description of what YOU did and how you did it to take things to next level.....Kino, body posture, etc...
I will add some of that to my blog, they just seem so long already. I do operate a lot like a natural. I read and react. I will go over their differences in a post.

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My Style of Game
A lot of the time I get picked up on by girls, I just react properly. A girl might joke with me (opening me) and I can start a conversation easily. In the cases where I target a girl I want I start trying to make eye contact with them I play a sort of eye game while smiling at them and adjusting body for physical movement attention. At some point I find a way to stand next to them and talk to them, sometimes they will come to me. Sometimes I walk straight up.

Naturals

I operate a lot like some of the naturals I know/of, which is why I post in this section most. All these pick up artists don't understand why a natural gets "any" girl he goes after. Well he goes after girls who are already interested in him. I do the same thing, I look around a room, look for looks to me and than I work accordingly. My body language is confident (I walk in like I own a place like I said) but non-threatening.

You guys are learning about what a natural does to be good with girls. His “natural” body language allows him to have a wider variety than the average guy because of his confidence, his sexual annunciation (masculinity through body language), and ability to read girls. His instinctual understanding of courtship such as: when to elevate, when to slow down, how to build comfort, and how to touch. These are all things you can learn and make instinct.

Most "Naturals" walk into a room, take inventory, and figure out which girls they can get. Then they go pick up their target out of the ones they have already been eyed by. They have a natural understanding of body language that allows them to read their actions and react properly. They have a natural understanding of what a woman is saying silently.

Of course these guys may end up getting more and more attention through out the night from different girls through out the room due to social proof (why do all these other girls like him?). When the night starts they may have 5 options, when it ends they may have 20. So they appear to be able to get any girl.

So they understand who they can get, then they target those girls. After this they have an instinctual understanding of body language so they just know how to elevate and when to. They know where all the hot spots are so they naturally kino there. They just understand what the woman is saying through their body language and react great to what they are "saying". She reached out for me owe, well I should accept her invitation and touch her back. She leaned in I can lean in.

Overall they have a very high success rate because they are selecting girls they have already past the first screening of and than going to these girls. After that their instinctual body language reading and reaction takes place. Not everyone may agree with this. Some naturals also have the ability to do pick up "naturally" because they have a natural understanding of body language. They go talk to a girl, their body language speaks value and they read then react properly to the girl’s body language.

My five Phase comparison of Natural vs Pick Up:

Attention:
Pick up artists are good because their boldness. They go up and catch a girl's attention. This is why pick up artists peacock it gets attention.

A natural looks over and gets attention from a girl from a body language stand point (such as eye contact across the room). This is most people’s selling point. I know of a few of them that play an eye game where they try and catch each other looking. A natural will start building sexual tension from across the room.

Recognition:
Pick up artists get a girl to recognize them because they caught their attention. They speak to these girls and get recognition.

A natural has got their attention and had them recognize their body movements annunciated their masculinity. Their eye game is part of their recognition.

Interaction/Talking:
Pick up artists need the third step more than Naturals. They have to talk and interact with them using canned lines that have proven to entertain. They have a routine. They use mechanical styles and have escape phrases. They consciously put effort into knowing what to do rather than instinctively doing so.

This for me is a huge difference because of the approaches they take. While a natural is likely a pretty charismatic person, entertaining and fun, he also has a natural understanding of body language. He instinctively knows how to announce his intentions through body language. They build sexual tension through body language and comfort.

Touch:
A pick up artist knows they need to consciously kino and read IOIs to figure out what is going on. They touch because they consciously have to show their intentions. They escalate when they are getting IOIs.

Naturals slowly close the gap and bring up the intimacy with no effort because their instinctual body language reading skills. They naturally build rapport with a girl and their body language adjusts to theirs perfectly. They are non-threatening even with the annunciation of their sexuality (masculinity). They know where they can touch a girl, how much space they can have. So he knows how and when to elevate. He knows a girl’s hot spots. He can build intimacy through touch and he builds strong sexual tension this way.

Sex:
A pick up artist usually experiences last minute resistance because he has built an artificial rapport. He made her attracted to them through tips and tricks. He doesn’t make her comfortable because he knows what she wants; he makes her comfortable because he has learned how to make her comfortable with him. His body language reading and touch are forced conscious and more mechanical, so he hasn’t made her has comfortable for intimacy. The sexual tension is there but not as strong as with a natural, they haven't comforted them through body language.

Naturals have built a natural familiarity and comfort for the girl. The sexual tension is very strong. There is no last minute resistance. They have built a rapport through comforting her with their body language, by going as far as they are allowed to. They naturally mirrored their body language, they closed the space at the same rate they were allowed to, they read their body language and reacted how they were suppose to. They fell into sync with the girl. There is no last minute resistance; there are no words, just actions. Silence can be a powerful weapon if used properly you can do very well. I have seen guys pick up on girls with little to no conversation, kiss close with out a word for 45 minutes(also got her number).

That is my perception on the difference between most pick up artists and naturals. I hope you guys got something out of this.

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Building Up for the Kiss

In order to get to that magic kiss, something we all struggle to do from time to time. You only have to follow the natural steps of courtship: Attention, Recognition, Interaction (talking), Touch, and finally our favorite part of all SEX. Most pick up artists have routines and know what to say to get a kiss. Most naturals know how to create an intimate moment to get a kiss. There are certain things you should be doing to build sexual tension for an easy first kiss. I am skipping the first two steps since you guys should have an understanding of what they are (ask if you have a question thought).

Once you are interacting with a girl you should start building sexual tension (which there may already be). The start of it is for your torsos to start to angle toward each other, you can slowly go at their pace (turn slightly as they do). The distance should begin to close and you guys should start to be comfortable at a closer distance.

You start angling you body at her at the same rate, than close the distance as she leans in slowly, and lean in the same distance you are moving at her pace which she is comfortable with. Careful not to overstep you bounds, just do what you are allowed to do. I like to joke and turn my torso a little more toward them than move it back and measure their reaction. Kind of a version of 2 steps forward 1 step back at the beginning.

You should be allowed into her intimate space (for a lot of people it is like 1-3 feet) with a slow easy elevation. You need to slowly and comfortably invade her space. Believe it or not as you close the distance you are elevating the intimacy of the moment. Sometimes guys will close on the space to quickly and make a girl uncomfortable. It will seem very threatening, desperate, or needy if you close in on their space before you are allowed to, so make sure you are allowed to go there before you do. I guess it is kind of a micro elevation even if it is just closing the distance slowly or angling torsos toward each other slowly.

During the interaction you should be slowly making stronger eye contact. A good way to build sexual tension through elevation is to do what is called an intimate gaze. It is where you go from one eye to the other eye than down to the nose, I prefer eye to eye to lips. I do this repetitively through out the interaction more and more often with the rising comfort level. Something else we talked about already was aligning your right eyes gaze into each other’s for a moment this will help build a very deep and intimate connection. The sexual tension rises tremendously.

As courtship escalates your space will decrease until you are very close together and comfortable in each other’s intimate space. You should have been scattering touch through out your interaction and touching hot spots to build sexual tension. Starting to touch in non-threatening places such as the upper shoulder or bumping into her shoulder here and there flirting even before closing the distance (2 steps forward 1 step back).

As you start to get to the point where she is comfortable with you in her intimate space and touch is accepted comfortably. You should have built sexual tension (the attraction cues you guys now know) you merely have to find (or create) a moment where you guys make solid silent eye contact for a moment (5 seconds is more than enough) and fall into the kiss. Don’t try to kiss but fall into the kiss. You can do the intimate gaze somewhere in that silent moment than fall into a kiss (staring at a girls soft subtle lips is hard to pass up on). Ask any questions guys.

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What exactly do you mean with "fall into a kiss"? Whats the difference between trying to kiss her and falling into a kiss?

Also, I would like to see if I got it right.....Using the BL and acting more like a natural is reminding me of Gamblers Stealth technique with micro escalations. What you are saying is to actually move slowly and actually let the girl decide the pace (ie letting you know what is "allowed" or what she is comfortable with). You act confident and you escalate/elevate when she gives you the green light, right?


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What exactly do you mean with "fall into a kiss"? Whats the difference between trying to kiss her and falling into a kiss?

Also, I would like to see if I got it right.....Using the BL and acting more like a natural is reminding me of Gamblers Stealth technique with micro escalations. What you are saying is to actually move slowly and actually let the girl decide the pace (ie letting you know what is "allowed" or what she is comfortable with). You act confident and you escalate/elevate when she gives you the green light, right?
I will get a long post up for you. It will take me a second and I have work soon so I will get it up tomorrow. Sorry it is hard to write this thread, my other thread, and a blog, time is limited. This is going to require a bit of thought and time so that I can answer you properly on the escalation end.

The kiss on the other hand should just happen, don't try to kiss a girl. Fall into the kiss. I don't try to kiss a girl. I just kiss her. You should just fall into the kiss. At the point in courtship I am talking about you are denying the girl if you don't kiss her. You should just kiss her. The moment shouldn't allow you to not kiss the girl. A kiss should almost seem to be an obligation at that moment in time. Kissing her at this point is an expectation anything less is rejecting her. If I make solid eye contact with a girl in the proper SPAM it is hard to not kiss the girl. Just let yourself slip, fall, or find you kissing her. I don't know how to explain it, but as they say when the moment is right you will know. Mungo did very well in talking about how he didn't try doing anything, he found himself doing things. This should happen to you eventually.

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Your advice has been indispensable to me, poeticlyskuac - thanks so much.

I'm new to the scene so I have been trying the entire universe of pickup philosophies, trying to find which work for me (and which do not). I borrowed elements from all over: buying flashy bracelets to peacock, projecting sexual images into girls' minds, throwing cocky/funny statements, etc.

But I realized that I was trying to build a house without a foundation. I needed to improve my inner game first. How could I use opinion openers if my voice squeaked or my feet shuffled in the process? How could I make girls laugh if I didn't even believe that my own jokes were funny? How could I expect girls to want me if I couldn't even look into their eyes or touch them?

I needed a mentality, an outlook, or a vibe - all completely independent of any techniques or routines. I needed what the naturals always had, what learned-PUAs envied for and spent years of field-testing to match. I needed "natural game." And if I could learn it, I wouldn't need any routines or canned material; I could create my own on the spot, adapting to any situation.

So I read over what you and Stormz wrote, meditated on it a lot, and gave it a try. No routines, no techniques, no canned material, nothing except for a big confident smile and a charismatic upbeat mood. I thought of everything that I was proud of, every achievement in my life, everything that made me feel like I was at the top of the world, and focused on that "alpha" mentality everyday that I was out and about.

I've tried this for only one week. And results?

1 - Today, I went to the barber shop with the most fucking alpha posture and smile ever. It was a walk-in shop with no appointments. So anyone who had come in before me had to get their cut first before me. There were 3 guys ahead of me. All of them looked tired, grumpy, or otherwise beta, sitting humpback and legs closed as if they weren't wearing pants. I sat down with legs open, like I was important. I kept my chin up and smiled at the owner. And he stared at me for a second, and said, "Sir, you're first...go ahead" and motioned at me to go sit down for my haircut.

2 - Last week, I approached a cute girl (probably a 7 or an eight) sitting alone at McDonalds by simply going up to her and saying with a confident/upbeat smile, "Hey, I thought that you're really cute so I just had to stop to say hi, or I'd never get to meet you." She stared at me, completely shocked. She didn't know what to do for a second; she was frozen. It seemed like she was going to slap me in the face but instead, she smiled and giggled. I was in. Twenty minutes of talk later, I get her number and she told me that I completely made her day. First direct approach I did and it worked.

Now I believe in the power of inner game and being confident. And I think any guy can do it.

I want to thank you and other naturals whom I have taken inspiration from for making such drastic improvement in my life in such short time. The next year of my life should be interesting...


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i just found this blog and looks very interesting , i will read it all

thanks for doing it poeticlyskuac :D

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