Hello, Fellow PUAs,

I'm M. Kind of new to the community, but studied all the bibles already (aka Mystery's Venusian Arts Manual and Style's The Game). Also started sarging a few times already (50% success, 50% crashed and burned).

I'm just wondering who you guys think is truly the best PUA around as of now... Mystery? Style? De Angelo? Jeffries? etc.,

My vote's for Mystery and Style. But again, I'm new. Plz let me know what u think.

Respectfully,

M

I had a smart-ass reply to this worked out, and then I realized that it doesn't really warrant smart-assery.

I honestly don't think it matters who the "best" pick up artist is. That's like asking who the best author is. There are so many different styles and schools of thought in pick-up that to put anyone on a scale seems inherently silly to me.

A better question would be: What can I do to make myself the best pick-up artist I can be?

I happen to agree.

I don't think that, at this point, we can determine who the best PUA is. Since "The Game" released the 'community' has grown exponentially, requiring experienced and serious PUAs to retreat into more exclusive, invite-only online communities. They'll still float around forums like this one, Mystery Forum, and others, but won't really apply themselves like they do on their private forums.

Because most of us do not have access to their information it is impossible to determine who is coming up with the most new, original material... and for me personally that's the indicator of the best mPUA; creativity.

Everyone gets blown out of sets; Juggler, Mystery, Style, Sinn, Matador, all of them. But some have just grown to a high status by perfecting other's material. A select few have been pioneers, and those are the ones for us to watch for.

A long-winded response with no actual answer. This may be a transition period for the PUA community; Style is all but out, Mystery hasn't taught a course in quite awhile, Juggler only comes out when someone pays him directly for a one-on-one experience, and slews of unknowns are offering courses and workshops at prices near those offered by gurus. In another year I believe that we'll have a fresh crop of mPUAs teaching somewhat knew material.

That's my ten cents.

~Grayson

I personally have studied quite a few of the methods and schools of pickup but in the end, most of them come from three main sources: Mystery, David Deangelo, Ross Jeffries.
Those three are the main power houses behind pickup,
They invented most of the stuff that people teach.

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Ross jeffries may have been the one who started it all, but I heard nothing but bad reviews on the guy. Mystery and DD are alright.

That is because he uses NLP and some people think NLP is manipulating people only to hit the sack.

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Come on Monkey you and I are both on the same page. Infact I will just say it now. I am the best PUA. Ya that is right me.

Its not really NLP cause NLP is used to describe and manipulate communication, NLP is used by all PUAs even Mystery, and David D.
NLP is used to manipulate verbal communication.
Now what Ross uses is Speed Seduction, what it does is give her emotions she wants then anchor those feelings onto you, it works yes, but guys get lazy or start hating it (who knows why), Speed Seduction consists of memorized patterns, and affermations, a lot of guys find that unattractive, so they don't do it. Especially with all them Ross haters and the Natural movement in the community Speed Seduction isn't liked alot, however try it out then say it, cause you can't say shit about something till you atleast try it out.
I never heard one guy tell me that Speed Seduction doesn't work after trying it, don't get me wrong I've heard of guys not like using it or getting sick of it, but never tell me that it doesn't work.
As for the Greatest Pickup Artist, well ya'll are reading from the best and future Greatest Guru of all time, just wait and see. I'll be the Jesus of Pickup.

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From the guys I have seen

David Deangelo
Mystery
Style
Ross Jeffries

The clear winner is Mystery. This guy is completely original, has a talent in magic, and takes shit from no one. He has so many mind tricks that will turn even the most threatening AMOGs away. If the other three guys tried that crap he has tried, they would all be on the ground, knocked out. This guys is something else.

I would place DeAngelo last because he is sort of boring , but I would call it a tie between Style and Ross Jeffries for second place. Style definatley has a better look and a naturally warm personality that women warm up to, but Ross Jefferies has some wickedly awesome tricks that he uses. He can make a girl wet by not even touching her. He is an ugly man and is definatley a creep but he knows his NLP shit very well.

I totally agree with you there Ross has some crazy shit that you could only learn in seminar and his shit is crazy awesome thats its almost scary.
Style knows just about every form of real pickup, and has studied them all, he's like a swiss army knife he's got all the skills

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Contemporary Chronicler:
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Best of Jaxin:
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Wow I am the only person that believes I am the best.... Oh well.

my favorites are
mystery;
swingcat;
tylerdurden;
david deangelo;
theres more but i dont feel like listing all of them

I'd say it's hard to tell, because most guys have read "the game" and in there its some really badass tings about Jeffries and Tyler Duren. Also, everyone uses his own style, that is why they are so good. It would be more fair if it would be contest only between users of MM, another for C&F, and so on. Every method works, it is about finding the one that suits you best and sticking with it. Or you can make your own thing, but it is much harder, and much better.

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Different people have different styles, and will feel more comfortable with one approach than another. It's good to get an idea of what each "guru" is about, then pick the one that seems closest to what you feel is the right approach for you. Learn and grow.