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As usual, this is a very long post. I tend to detail everything, which I think is good as long as you make it through the whole thing. My goal is for both you and me to learn something from my posts. Without further ado, here's what happened last night:

Getting in mood

Yesterday, I went to a friends place for drinks. He's living with his room mate, so the three of us sat around their apartment drinking and playing with my friends super-expensive camera. Those pictures that came out of that thing were a real confidence boost - I've never looked so cool before!

I borrowed some clothes from my friend. They were baggy jeans with a huge (and expensive) brand printed on, a v-collared shirt with the same brand in large type, and on top of that my jacket that looks like a mixture between an army jacket and a suit jacket. I felt cool.

Queue game

After drinking, dressing and posting some pics on facebook, we hit the club. The line was pretty long, but I immediately started chatting with the people ahead and behind us, and my friends joined in. We had a good time. There was this segment where the line would do a 180 turn around a fence divider, and it took like 5-10 minutes to just do that turn. We were in the slow lane...

However, since the line did a 180 turn, we were facing the people who were standing further back in the line, and I saw this HB7 who was totally eyeballing me. Even my friend, who is not very good at gaming, noticed. So when HB7 and I met on each side of the fence, I said some stupid crap about how slow the line was and that she should expect the 180 turn to take very long. Then I told her to just climb the fence cutting the line to come hang out with me and my friends instead. Some general BS chat on top of that, and then the line started moving again so we were separated. Every now and then, I would get good eye contact with her again.

In da club

Finally, we were let in. We checked the place out, and after a while I met HB7 walking the opposite direction. "Hey, you made it in", I said, put my arm around her waist and told her to come out for a smoke with us. She did.

We had good kino from the very start, and she gave me really glazy looks all along. However, she left to find her friends after a while. I met her every now and then, danced with her, brought her out for air every now and then (compliance) and each time we ran into each other we came closer and closer. However, she kept running away to find her friends, and of course I did never object to that. However, I did tel her to give me her number just in case, but she rejected. "You'll find me", she said. I felt stupid for trying to get the number every time she was about to run off, but didn't know what else to do, as I legitimately didn't know if I'd see her again during the night. Finally, she typed her first name in my phone and said that there is only one person with that name in our city (it was a foreign name), so I should be able to find her in the catalogue. I was wondering why she would not just give me her number in that case, but I guess she had some reason. (I later discovered that she was right, I did find her in the catalogue).

The last time I met her, she was standing with a group of both males and females. I put my arm around her waist and said something. She walked off a few steps with me, and after a short while said "my ex is there, so I don't wanna rub it in his face, we'll see each other later". I guess that's good after all. "I'm flattered that you see me as a problem in respect to your ex", I said and went off.

Random stuff

Quite early, my friend's room mate went off. He was starting to cool off already in the queue, so he was in no mood to party. So it was just me and my friend. Between interactions with HB7 and after m last interaction with her, we would just roam the club and approach sets all over. Usually, I was walking ahead and initiating conversations. Unfortunately, he's not very good at game, so he blew us out of a few sets. He adopted a very direct approach, thinking that he helped me out by saying to a girl that I talked to: "Are you interested in this guy? He said to me before that he finds you super hot, you should really give him your number". I tried to mend the damage by saying "Don't mind my friend" in her ear, but we were pretty much lost.

I gave him some instructions, and we went on with our sarging. He did a lot better from that on.

At one point, he dragged me into the center of a ring of HBs on the dance floor, and we started really dancing it off with each other. A bit gay, it sure was, but the girls loved it! Pretty soon, we had a whole harem of girls who would dance really hot and close with us. Good stuff! Being able to dance sexy-funny has helped me a lot. Doing it with female friends in a joking manner is great practice. It's not hard to go from sexy-funny to just sexy once you're with a HB.

Approaching my ultimate target

When going for drinks, my friend approached the bar and I saw this HB7.5 and her HB7 friend leaning towards the bar facing the dance floor. We had to pass by them in order to get to the bar, and as I did so, I grabbed HB7.5's water glass on a whim. I intended to steal a sip (something that I do quite often with HBs, it's both a good C&F thing lacking a situational opener and it's a good way of getting intoxicated really cheap :) - well, not in this case, since it was water), but she held on to her glass. She was smiling about it, so we argued jokingly for a while, until she told me that she'd order a glass of water for me.

She turned to the bar and I stood beside her, putting my arm around her, which she was fine with. "If you order me a beer instead, I may really start to like you", I said, but she gave me water and I bought my own beer. After talking and escalating kino some more (stroking her back and neck), I directed all four of us (me and her, her friend and my friend) to the dance floor.

The first close

Some guy who she seemed to know came up to dance with her, and I gave them some space for a while, until I just walked up and grabbed her. The guy danced away. Shortly, my friend suggested we'd go out for a cigarette, and I brought the girls along. We found a spot at the outdoors bar, where I positioned myself so that I isolated HB7.5. My friend did a good job keeping HB7 busy. HB7.5 had a sip of my beer and I gave her a hard time about drinking from my glass even though she wouldn't let me have a sip from hers erlier. We laughed for that for a bit, and then went silent.

That was the magic moment. We were already standing very close, my arm on her back. When conversation ended and we maintained eye contact, I could feel that sexual tension building, and I didn't even hesitate - we just ended up kissing.

Post-kiss game

Turns out she was a really good kisser. We stood there just making out for a good five minutes, squeezing our bodies tightly together. Our friends proclaimed that they'd go have a seat nearby, and we went on with our making out. After a while, I wanted to definitely isolate, so I suggested going to the dance floor. Unfortunately, she expressed concern about her friend, so I said "let's see how they're doing and bring them with us". They came with us. But along the way, my friend got lost, and I was alone with HB7.5 and her HB7 obstacle friend.

It turned out, however, that HB7 was not much of an obstacle at all. She said that she'd go home. While I was thinking "BOOOYA, SCOOORE!" in my head, I said "Noo, come dance with us, it'll be fun", just to maintain the frame of being a social guy who just wants everyone to have a good time. She left, and I led HB7.5 by the hand to the dance floor.

We danced around for a bit. Or, really we just made out while moving around on the dance floor, not noticing anybody else. There was some hot stuff right there.. I did one thing (cred goes to poeticlyskuac) that she really loved: I grabbed her undies through the outside of her dress and used them to control her hips. That sure fired it up an extra notch. Pretty soon, I took her by the hand and led her down the stairs and without a word to the wardrobe. "Get your stuff, we're going home".

Taking her home

Once out on the street, I asked her where she lives, for the purpose of finding out whether we should go to her place or my place.

HB: I live in [small city].
Me: You're kidding? No way!
HB: What's so weird about living there?
Me: Nothing, it's just that I'm about to move there in a month.
HB: No way!

So, I guess I have a date for when I get there. Quite a kick start!

She asked me where I live, I told her, and then:

HB: So, what's going on at your place?
Me: What's going on there tonight is that you're coming there with me.
HB: You're not the guy who asks questions, are you?
Me: No, I don't work that way..

And we went to my place.

The ever-lasting last minute

I poured us a glass wine each. We didn't drink much of it before we were all over each other. I got her stripped down to her undies. When I took her bra off, she said "what are you doing?" to which I responded "I'm taking your bra off". But then I slowed down for a while, before bringing her to the bedroom.

I would finger her on the outside of her undies, but she didn't allow me to go inside. So I tried a bedside freezeout for the first time. I just rolled over, said something like "what are you doing that for?" and pretended to just go for sleep. She came caressing me and kissing me, asking if I was mad at her. "No", I said, "but I know you want me to do that to you". She said she did, but we hardly know each other and so on. I let her sweat some more, but then rolled over and started kissing her again.

I flipped her over and started giving her a back rub. I worked my way down to her legs, and then up to her butt. Now, getting her undies was no match. But she still wouldn't go all the way. I went down on her and fingered her, all the time struggling with lots of LMR. She gradually let me go further, but I gave up the idea of a f-close eventually.

The next day

After fooling around in bed for hours, we tried to sleep. I kept waking up from her moaning over the fact that my snoring kept her awake. I guess I wasn't the real victim there. :) She couldn't get a minute of sleep, so eventually she went to sleep on the sofa. Ouch..

However, in the morning, she came back to bed, and we kissed and it escalated into exactly the things we had done during the night. Plus, she gave me a hand job. I let her use the shower, I "found" her a tooth brush (I always keep extra tooth brushes in a cabinet) and then we went for pizza.

So we hung out for a few hours, and then I took her number. I guess I'll find the city that I'm moving to a warm and welcoming place. :)

Summing it up

This was the first time I used a freezeout as a response to LMR. It worked, though not as well as I hoped for. I didn't know how far to take it, so when she came after me, I found it safest to acknowledge her. I don't know if that was good or bad.

I opened sets in a much more natural way than usual and I feel that my inner game is really falling into place. I think I had a better-than-usual read on body language and other signals, much thanks to poeticlyskuac's posts in the natural-game section. Also, this was probably the first time I gamed without any kind of canned material.

This is looking well!

If you've read all the way here: Thank you. I have a tendency to write very long posts, but I think that's good as long as you make it all the way through them. As usual, any comments are much appreciated.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:47 pm 
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Nice man, going with just yourself and your friend is much better than going with 4 people, coz ur friend can always take the opposite girl and so on.

I think one of the reasons she didn't wana fuck, was coz she wanted more and not just a fuck, e.g. a relationship.

dunno if you agree with me on this.
but its the way i see it.

taught me that i need to obey the 3 second rule coz once i get going, my natural game is sick.

keep updating us wit field reports

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Thanks man.

Yes, I agree with you, I'm afraid she wants something serious. I actually remember her saying that for going all the way "it's a good idea to really like each other first". I don't remember exactly what I responded, but it was something along the lines that I think that when two people really want to do something, they should go ahead and do it.

We had a moment when I would wisper "do you want me to do [whatever]" into one ear, then "do you want me to do [whatnot]" in her other ear, and it really turned her on and she said that she wanted me to, but she couldn't. Talking into ears is something that I've only just now added to my game, and it's really powerful. I think the big discovery for me was that it doesn't take much at all to get to a place where you can do that without coming across as creepy/weird/pushy, and it really elevates her emotionally. That is in coursthip as well as in bed.

I read your FR, and I know exactly what you mean with the 4-man problem. There's nothing more frustrating than having friends that will only hold you back.

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My feedback:

i think if i was in that situation i would have fucked her.

i would have sweet talked her about, how your gna take her out if shes good in bed, my game comes naturally; in the moment, so i dunno what i would have exactly said, but i wouldn't have given up.

take this feedback and next time make her know that a one night stand is what your looking for but in an indirect way.

think u gave up to easily, the hard part of getting her in your house was over.

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I think you're totally right. I wa kinda just glad to get into her undies at all after all that LMR, which I would probably not have done a few months ago. But I'm sure I could have played it better. I'll just make sure to keep improving.

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Well done my friend. Thanks for the magnificent love you have given me. It is much easier to understand what is going on in courtship if you can read all the signs. I am very very excited for you now that you have this in your tools set sounds like you are really tearing it up.

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Thank you. All the love is well deserved, your posts have helped me a great deal.

I think that this is the most clear sign of a shift in my game:
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That was the magic moment. We were already standing very close, my arm on her back. When conversation ended and we maintained eye contact, I could feel that sexual tension building, and I didn't even hesitate - we just ended up kissing.
I didn't actually go for the kiss, rather I just found myself kissing her. I spotted the signal and acted on it instinctively, which is a very good sign. I will keep reading your and others' posts, and hopefully, I'll internalize more and more as I go. That's really what I think this is about. As long as you think about things, you're not gonna be fluent. But thinking about them helps you internalizing them as you get more experienced with them. It seems like the kiss came very naturally to me. I didn't decide to do it - I just did.

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I've been in touch with HB7.5, and she seems really eager to see me. We've been on the phone once, and as much as I liked it, I don't wanna talk to her too much to get her expectations up too much before we meet. It's another week before we get the chance, as she lives in another city. She's coming here (for family, not for me, but she agreed to stay at my place one night) next weekend and the weekend after that. The next weekend is when I'll be moving to the place where she lives.

When we were on the phone, she kept saying things about "all those other girls" that she supposes that I bring home every other night. I didn't deny it, though I didn't admitt it either. I just can't find it in me to say "hey, I'm seeing other girls too", it seems. So AFC. But I let her think that herself, so I guess I'm managing expectations still.

Then we talked some about how we wanted each other naked (I think this is definitely OK to admitt as long as you got her admitting it too) and subtly talking about the things we wanted to do to each other. That conversation really turned me on. :) I think I'm gonna get to f-close her next weekend.

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I've been in touch with HB7.5, and she seems really eager to see me. We've been on the phone once, and as much as I liked it, I don't wanna talk to her too much to get her expectations up too much before we meet. It's another week before we get the chance, as she lives in another city. She's coming here (for family, not for me, but she agreed to stay at my place one night) next weekend and the weekend after that. The next weekend is when I'll be moving to the place where she lives.

When we were on the phone, she kept saying things about "all those other girls" that she supposes that I bring home every other night. I didn't deny it, though I didn't admitt it either. I just can't find it in me to say "hey, I'm seeing other girls too", it seems. So AFC. But I let her think that herself, so I guess I'm managing expectations still.

Then we talked some about how we wanted each other naked (I think this is definitely OK to admitt as long as you got her admitting it too) and subtly talking about the things we wanted to do to each other. That conversation really turned me on. :) I think I'm gonna get to f-close her next weekend.
Nice! Should be a smokin good time. Let us know how it goes!

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