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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:20 pm 
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It is you, not the women, not the bigshot alpha males or rich people or whoever, who is weakening yourself, who is putting a wall betwixt you and your dreams. In "Inner Game" you speak of, there are NO LIMITS. You shape your mind however you want to. You really can. Anyone can, every human being.

You're placing a huge emphasis on the wrong things.

If you don't believe you can do things, then you will not. If you do believe, then you will be able to do it, so long as it does not go into conflict with the physical laws of this world (like believing you can move cars by blinking). You can get women, anyone can. Start developing yourself NOW, all on your own. YOU DON'T NEED THE HELP OF PUAS OR ANYONE. You just need you and your mind (and I guess your body if you wanna work out :) ).

BE A MAN. It's not that hard to be strong, you just have to BE tough. After all, we ARE the tougher sex, biologically; it's in your DNA. I swear, barely anyone knows the true potential of humankind, of our minds, the things we can do.

That said, you are also placing too much emphasis on this PUA business. I may not be able to change your views on this, because I don't believe this is the easiest thing to do, but I'm just saying what I think many don't really realize:

You are not strong and alpha if you barter not just individuality but also morality and values for power, success, women, anything. You are truly powerful, truly strong if you stay true to your true self. You are then BETTER than alpha. Because the person who becomes alpha and subsequently cruel and demoralized is not alpha. He/she is just one of the millions of jerks with high social statuses who look back on their glitter-filled lives and see that they have not improved in any way the world that they will one day depart, that their life was meaningless.

In the biological sense, we are just organisms attempting to reproduce, and the best way to do that is by being the 'fittest' of us so that we may have the maximum amount of women, and hence offspring. It may be important, but it's not the purpose of mankind. It is our purpose in the biological, animalistic sense, but not when you consider that we are men, not animals. Even many girls think that having sex will give them confidence too. Do you want your body/mind/desires to control you, or do you want to control your body/mind/desires?

Putting sexual desires aside, there's nothing so special about having sex with women solely for the purpose of pleasure. There seems to be no point. It's just an animalistic instinct, a biological mechanism. I don't believe I'm a fruit fly or a monkey. I want to have girlfriends, so as to become well-acquainted with the dating world, so that I may one day find a good wife. but I will never go so far as to have sex with them. I don't know why you think it will make you praiseworthy or exalted in any way.

I may be 16 years of age, but this is logic, I'm sure of that.
What do you think? Do you agree?


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:49 pm 
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THank you.
But i disagree when you say anyone can pickup girls.
for example this guy:
[img]http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/Og ... I913yH.jpg[/img]

He probably is never gonna get laid,thats the sad side of life.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:00 am 
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If you're kidding, then lol.

But seriously, any normal individual can alter their own physical appearance to the extent that they may be attractive and confident, just as one may be this also by altering their mindset and controlling themselves mentally.


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haudas good find LMAO


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:13 am 
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Someguy, i totally agree with you on most of your points, but for the average guy its a lot harder in practice then in theory, if you listen to David De Angelo, on his Mastery with Women and Dating seminar he talks about the first step towards mastery is imitating the best.

1. Imitate the best until you get consistent results
2. Learn how to make finer and finer distinctions and adaptions to various situations
3. Create a values system as a basis for your actions
4. Create variations to better adapt to you personally
5. Innovate

He's very wise, i think you'de find his material very interesting, it addresses a lot of this stuff :D

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BE A MAN. It's not that hard to be strong, you just have to BE tough. After all, we ARE the tougher sex, biologically; it's in your DNA. I swear, barely anyone knows the true potential of humankind, of our minds, the things we can do.
Thats the biggest load os bs I have seen in a long time... How do you get girls? Just be more attractive, its not that hard. How do you fly an airplane? Just be a pilot. How do you go into space? Just use your astronaut training.

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hahahaha

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Thats the biggest load os bs I have seen in a long time... How do you get girls? Just be more attractive, its not that hard. How do you fly an airplane? Just be a pilot. How do you go into space? Just use your astronaut training.

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Exactly...

Everyone can scream out idealistic nonsense , bur rarely does someone give a logical explanation or structure.

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Yes, practice makes perfect, but this falls into the category of inner strength which I described, of never giving up.


And when you refer to the section that is "BS", you clearly misunderstood me. When I said be a man, I was referring to the toughness that is commonly associated with manliness, that quality of strength and control which defines masculinity, the composition of one's thoughts and mind. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but it's not that difficult to have if you think about it. Maybe it really is just me.

I was most certainly not saying that things come overnight. I apologize most sincerely if I had given you that impression. This strength stuff I speak of is the foundation one needs in order to begin the process of change that will enable them to in the future be successful.

In my post I was referring to what one needs before and after this alpha stuff. In essence this strength that one has in the beginning should stay with them till after they've achieved what they wanted to, as they will always be in control of themselves and will never get lost in their gains.


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And when you refer to the section that is "BS", you clearly misunderstood me. When I said be a man, I was referring to the toughness that is commonly associated with manliness, that quality of strength and control which defines masculinity, the composition of one's thoughts and mind. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but it's not that difficult to have if you think about it. Maybe it really is just me.
No I understood you. And my point remains valid. I find it easy too but we arent here to help people who find things easy, we are here to help people that dont.

It is still BS.

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To the OP

If you're joking then it's funny. If your serious then it's fucking HILARIOUS!


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Then perhaps I don't understand the plight of many young guys. You're right.\

Either that, or I communicated my message in a terrible manner. I mean, I too have issues that I'm attempting to fix, though I'm trying my best, and with a certain mindset that I'm sure will accelerate the process. I dunno.

Well, I don't know...I'm trying to help. I guess I offended you. Sorry.


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Sorry, did not mean to offend. Just read far enough to read that you were only 16. Whatever floats your boat.

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None taken.

Keep writing posts, criticism is good.

But the entire point of my response here is that if it would be that easy to man up, people would.

People know what they need to do (man up) but not how to do it, thats the problem.

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That makes perfect sense, Ezo. I don't know how I never saw that..


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