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You are talking about personality while I am talking about behavior. Kids have their personality when they are born. I didn't copy paste one thing buddy. Not one. But I appreciate you thinking I am capable of writing a book that college students would read. What a great ego endorser. So I could write a book that someone like you would read and than you can go make fun of someone else. LOL Do you want a list of how many books I have read? I doubt it is as many as you but I do have a long list of books. I do realize my books are psychology based, in fact all body language is. You talking about someone who locks a kid in a dark room for months at a time proves nothing. In the limited contact a child has they will observe and adopt behavior. Why would that change? Is it a kid not taught to say thank you? Is he not taught to say your welcome? Is he not taught to open doors for women? These things are natural habit.

Everything I wrote were based on things I remember nothing more. Yes, most of this is summarized. I am glad you feel that I am that good that someone like you would want to read about it.

If you don't understand the point of the post than you are ridiculous. If you just choose whatever girl you want it is called rape, Sublime wrote a song about it, and Fishbone did a sweet version as well, if you want to check it out.

Let me ask you a serious question. Do you go 100% with girls? Every single girl you speak with if she is your target you land her? Your ego must be humongous congratulations to you.

Natural AFC aye? LOL The point of the body language is to know when to push, when to pull, when to stay, when to elevate, and when it is a lost cause (or you just don't care). Some girls I just downright don't want to talk to them, if you have nothing of substance to say I move on. I talk to people that is it, I would say that 80% of girls gain a attraction for me in less than 3 minutes. Some gain a attraction later, and others I just don't care for.

The problem for some of us once again is that we don't recognize the signals it is not that we don't have game but we just don't know when we are ok to do some things. Does it seem unnatural? Yup at first, but you instill as habit so it becomes natural. Do you drive naturally? Do you walk naturally? Do you talk naturally? Do you read naturally? Do you count naturally? Did you learn any of these things? They all become natural. Have girls become natural for you? Have your routines become natural?

Do you not see my point? I am just helping with some thing we all need in natural game, as I stated it was my biggest flaw. When you don't think any girl likes you because they all send you signs the problem isn't that you are naturally bad with women. The problem is we don't know things that are a necessity in courtship, body language. You have no idea how great it was to realize these things for someone like me.

Yesterday sitting down, I seen a girl look back make eye contact. Than shifted her hair, did the head whip, straighten her clothes. Than within a minute she made eye contact again. I would have never understood this without the knowledge I feel everyone should know. All she was looking for was an excuse to talk to me. When you become the man you don't need all this pick up shenanigans. Girls pick up on you, something that happens to me all the time. Do I gain social proof? Yup, does this make it easier for me to get my target? Yup. Can I pick up on every single girl I come across? NO, but I have never met one person who was successful with every girl they target.

LOL, So someone with a low back pain and a limp (I realized this afterward, she wasn't walking). Yup must be stress. You seem to think your perception of body language is better than mine and I am quite happy for you. I understand the difference between a sore back and a hurt back. I have worked construction and so I know the difference.

I have never once went to a boot camp for pick up, nor will I ever. I consider pick up nothing more than sales and marketing. That is how I see it. This is one of the things that I have read most about. It was something I got into far before pick up was a concept in my life. I don't even consider myself a pick up artist. I don't ever want to be considered one either. I want to be good with women, nothing more. My mission has been a success.

Actually, lately I have had a lot of people tell me I am charismatic. So it has stuck in my mind. Do I care? No. I have just realized lately(literally in the last 3 weeks. I have been told it by upwards of 9 people, it is something that stuck with me. I consider it quite the compliment, why wouldn't I enjoy it? I usually joke that I am cocky or arrogant. I consistently humanize myself with humiliating comments about myself. I apologize because it does sound quite arrogant and it appears as though I am trying to add value to get to your level.

Nothing I wrote is for natural game is nothing more than a matter of your opinion. It is not a fact. Most naturals have natural conversation ability. They have the natural ability to use their surroundings and observations to create conversations. Something many of these people can use to their advantage. I think it is good for everyone to know so I share what I know. Not opinions.

Honestly I have seen several people not know when they need to move on, and it ruins your social proof for others as we have both discussed. I have also seen several people that have had nothing interesting to say outside of what do you do for a living? Nobody wants to talk about work. As far as leaving some times you have to cut out, that is how it is. Sometimes a girl is a down right @55h013 and I can't salvage it but to me it isn't someone I want to deal with anyways. Honestly I am not looking for a brainless girl with no conversation ability, you are, we are looking for two different things.

IOI to me is indicator of interest. That isn't what I talked about was it? I said look for positive signals not actions. You got me pegged all wrong sir, and based off what I have wrote I surely understand that. However somethings you have stated are not factual, not even theoretical, they are your opinion or someone you have read about's opinion or theory.

I guarantee you are loads smarter in pick up and psychology (probably even in general), but that doesn't mean I shouldn't add some comments to help people who don't know these things. It is unfair for you to feel that people know this and don't need to be taught this. If you let it become habit it will be natural.

This is just a tool, not a completion of game. I hope you enjoy your trolling, this will be my last response to you. Enjoy your week and have a good time picking up girls. Thank you sir and I apologize for anytime you may have wasted in response to me.

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This is the Natural Game Category.


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Kasabi and Aaron4Governor maybe you could help me out?

I know everyone says that online gaming is not really in-field.

But i've been trying to practice my day fence painting over the internet and would like you guys to give me some pointers. Here's the link:

http://www.freeonlinegames.com/fun-game ... fence.html

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Can anybody help me out here? Point me to one thread here that has ANYTHING to do with natural game. Most of it is an excuse to do whatever the hell you want to do or wishy washy 'read a synopsis of a self help book' but never practiced it BS.

In its place, how about a 'fly fishing category'? Not only can this forum expand its horizons but I think that a fishing category would actually be MORE HELPFUL for PU than this ridiculous topic.
Let it go mystery method guy. GO NATURAL!!!!

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My my my... I just watch in amusement... Would you guys try to read what Kas is writing... Without getting offended. Try to open your minds and understand what he is trying to say.

Yeah, Mystery method guy... He he, I will start calling him that. ;)

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My my my... I just watch in amusement... Would you guys try to read what Kas is writing... Without getting offended. Try to open your minds and understand what he is trying to say.

Yeah, Mystery method guy... He he, I will start calling him that. ;)
I am not at all impressed with someone who says "You can't", "You won't", "You don't", etc. style of statements. Why on earth should we be willing to do something he isn't willing to do? He isn't opened minded. In fact he is quite offensive with how closed minded he really is, he came on to a forum purely to state something very offensive. He says you can't be a natural. Well that is absolutely not true. You can change your behavior, your habits, and your instincts. Somethings are ingrained in us and thus far more natural for some of us. However, my statement stands if you can learn to walk, dance, drive, read, talk, etc. naturally why couldn't you learn to be good with girls naturally? Why couldn't you learn to do things a bit more naturally?

Will it start unnatural? Yes, but it can become natural. It won't be some sales routine you use on every girl, to try to cover whatever objection girls have. Sure you sales pitch is great, to bad you have nothing left to say afterwards. This is about learning to adjust your behavior to be habit. I am very unimpressed with this gentlemen and his attitude. If he doesn't like this particular section he is more than welcome to ignore it. To make outlandish opinionated statements has never been productive for a member of any community. I fail to see how you can agree with someone being ignorant. I guess Ignorance is bliss.

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I don`t see whos right or wrong.
I tend to agree with both cases but its like hearing which religion is better.


You guys have argued about ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING.

I think its more a complexity of how you understand reality.

I have yet to have figured out what triggers attraction in a female, since everybody is bassically attracted to diffrent things.

Our behaviours can be changed easily, we adapt to our environments.
When becoming PUA`s we bassically just learn to adapt quicker. Its training our brains in communication in massive amounts of times. We get stuck in our comfort zones, talking to the same people everyday maybe meet one or 2 people once in a while. But becoming PUA its bassically training your brain. Its like putting Density training, lactic acid training, dynamic training and strengh training on your body in the same week. Your body can`t adapt, builds more muscle and becomes stronger quicker.

Same thing for the brain, we just catch on faster to more things. We learn quickers etc...


Now I don`t know what my post has to do with anything... but w.e

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You know...

I agree with Kas for a good reason.

In his first post he says that there isnt anything even remotely ressembling natural game in this section. I gotta agree with that. Its basically just inner game and direct game. And that is not the same as natural game.

I also agree that it is pointless to discuss natural game. I mean, a natural is a natural. He does things that works for him, stuff that comes naturally to him. Not something he has learned.

Yes sure, of course you can learn to change your behaviour and sure you can improve who you are and call that natural game.

But to go from being a non natural to being a natural... You gotta go through all the non natural game first and build up your personality and inner game. Then when you are an awesome guy, you can go natural.

So basically, all is just about enough experience and its gonna feel more natural to you.

The only advice I can give anyone who wanna be a natural. Go back, get born again and this time as an attractive guy...

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do you think pick-up artist are naturals and have natural games? that's kasabis' point. do naturals knows this forum exist? or read, learn and practice like pua does? maybe would be better to change the section from 'Natural Game' to 'Being Natural'. suggestion only, what do you think? :wink:

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You know...

I agree with Kas for a good reason.

In his first post he says that there isnt anything even remotely ressembling natural game in this section. I gotta agree with that. Its basically just inner game and direct game. And that is not the same as natural game.

I also agree that it is pointless to discuss natural game. I mean, a natural is a natural. He does things that works for him, stuff that comes naturally to him. Not something he has learned.

Yes sure, of course you can learn to change your behaviour and sure you can improve who you are and call that natural game.

But to go from being a non natural to being a natural... You gotta go through all the non natural game first and build up your personality and inner game. Then when you are an awesome guy, you can go natural.

So basically, all is just about enough experience and its gonna feel more natural to you.

The only advice I can give anyone who wanna be a natural. Go back, get born again and this time as an attractive guy...
A natural is a natural, but everything becomes natural. Yes a guy naturally good with girls is like that for a reason. That said everything becomes natural with a conscious effort that eventually becomes habit. There are certain things that can be put in every single other section. Educating yourself in every aspect of courtship is the easiest way for everything to become natural.

I think that body language and the art of conversation were both great threads to learn. If you read the body language I actually wrote lots of little things that are solid about observation and examples of how they worked with girls. There has been some solid threads, but I agree the vast majority are not good for everyone. It may not be natural right off but the goal is for it to become natural. I am sorry but if you don't think anyone can become a natural with girls I most certainly disagree. It does require some effort into changing yourself, educating yourself, and changing habits. That does not mean it is impossible for you to be a natural with some practice. Just like learning to do your sales routine with your generic personality granted to you by some one else. I have been a sales men and thought their routine helped but I had to derive my own personality to make me more effective as a sales men. If you can not learn to sale yourself with your particular personality you will never become natural with women. If you constantly use someone else's styles and routine you will only know just that. You will not be able to operate outside of that element. To me that is a step back not a step forward.

I do understand that it doesn't start off natural but everything can become natural, that is fact. All you are looking to do is gain tool sets to become a natural, after that it is all you.

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The thing is, there is not much to discuss. Either you are natural or you are not. You can become more natural yes but that is still not something that you can discuss on a forum. I mean, things that are discussed here are far from natural.

Imagine the Field report.

"Hey I saw this girl and she was like totally into me and I didnt do anything , she just liked me".
"Awesome man, nice"


or

"Hey I was so natural today, I was just being myself and this one girl liked me, so totally game."
"Oh I wish I could be like you and just get girls like that"
"Yeah its easy, just be me and all girls will like you"
"Thanks Ill try that"


See, it becomes ridiculus!


I think many people confuse natural game with direct game, which is not the same.

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My my my... I just watch in amusement... Would you guys try to read what Kas is writing... Without getting offended. Try to open your minds and understand what he is trying to say.

Yeah, Mystery method guy... He he, I will start calling him that. ;)
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