Hey guys i realize that there are a bunch of threads about what to do if you become stuck in the friend zone, but none of them are tailored exactly to my experience. I have always been the "nice guy," I meet a lot of girls but end up being put in the friend zone (or so I believe). I am in college at the moment, in a fraternity, and in the past year have become a much more confident person.

The situation i am in right now goes as follows: When I was a freshman last year, i met this girl who lived on my floor. I thought "oh she’s cute" but i wanted to first build rapport with girls and actually make some girl friends my freshman year to set me up for the future. This girl started going out with a guy on my floor who I am friends with a month after school started. They went out for a while but ended up having a messy break up this past summer.

Because she was going out with a guy I WAS friends with (i am not anymore, our group doesn’t hang out with him anymore because he's a tool) I got to know her and hang out with her more. But I never tried anything because she had a bf.

A little background on her: I would consider her a HB7.5-8. She is a very nice girl, the kind you want to date. She apparently is insecure, which I am NOT trying to take advantage of. Also, I was hanging out with her one time last year when we were drunk and I remember her telling me that she went out with my friend because he was forward about it, which she said she likes.

She is always the one that initiates the conversation with me, and I do not have difficulty talking to her. She is in one of my classes so we walk back to our dorms together; there aren’t really any awkward silences or anything because if there is silence she will start talking again or I will ask her about how her sorority pledging is going, stuff like that. I feel the conversation gets somewhat flirty. Anyway, I feel like I am getting mixed signals from her; in class sometimes I’ll catch her looking my way and when I look towards her she moves her eyes like she was looking at the wall, but there is nothing on the wall.

I am afraid that yet again I am going to be put into the friend zone, if I am not there already. I would really appreciate any advice you think would help.

*I have been attempting to throw negs at her as well; like a week ago we were playing pong at a party and I pretended she had a smudge on her face and used my thumb to wipe it off.

*Oh and also, I am considering making a move this weekend. My fraternity has a party with her sorority so we will both be there. I was going to tell her something like “Lets get out of here lets go watch a movie or something.” I figure if she goes with me, she’s interested, if she doesn’t, she’s not. What do you think?

While your story maybe different the replies are pretty much going to be the same. Realize you are working from the standpoint of being in the friend zone there is no question about that. So except it, understand it, and work from that position. Now..there is a possibility that she could be interested and you'll need to figure that out. You said you threw a couple negs at her a week ago. When you use these methods there not intended to take place over a couple weeks or days, they're suppost to be used on that meeting. Any time in between and you'll have lost ground and have to redo them, although not always having to start from scratch. So the negs you used last week mean nothing to her this week or the next day for that matter. You can go about this a couple ways that I can see. First, at this party start working the game and try to progress through it all negging is a small portion of it. Focus more on the attraction portion seeing as she is already WAY to comfortable with you. Use the negs when she starts conveying her comfort around you to catch her off guard and question the relationship you already have. Start building Kino the entire night, more than the friendly Kino you've already established as a friend. You'll need to make moves that you haven't done like grabbing her waste or other types that a "friend" wouldn't do. If all these are working keep it going, isolate and move in. If she isn't being responsive to these then your to far in the friend zone to work yourself out and have one option...space. Time is the only thing that can reset this and it's not just a week, you need a long enough time for her to consider your not friends anymore which can take awhile. Other than that keep her as a friend and use her as a pivot.

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FYI most people in this forum are going to tell you to stop having one itis and just find another girl...

but once you are in friend zone its hard to get out unless you all of a sudden to into a new person in her mind.....

I would just neg the shit out of her and build sexual tension.

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