This happened to me couple weeks ago, after I built ENOUGH comfort with her, we came across question:

Rob: IF YOU COULD DO ANYTHING IN THE WORLD WITHOUT THINKING OF CONSEQUENCES, WHAT WOULD IT BE?

HB:(she came up with something like) Travel the world

Rob: (unconsciously neging her) That's pretty lame!

HB: What would you do?

Rob: Without thinking of consequences?

HB: Yeah

Rob: OK, this (and went for kiss)

Worked pretty well...

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Action seems to follow feeling, but really action and feeling go together, and by regulating the action, which is under the direct control of the will, we can indirectly regulate the feeling, which is not.

I like this.

this is pretty awesome

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for those who believe no explanation is necessary...for those who do not, none will suffice.

Easy to use and probably effective if she's comfortable with you.

here's another one

You: Do you know that moment in the movies where the boy and the girl look each other in the eyes, stare for about 3 seconds and then kiss?
Girl: Yes, of course.

I do two things here
1) You: this is it. and kiss her
2) You: (look her in the eyes and then say with a smile, teasing) Yea, this isn't it.

If you're doing 2, do NOT kiss her. Just build up massive sexual tension by looking into her eyes and let her expect to kiss you, but don't. She'll start to wonder why you did that and be extremely attracted to you afterwards.

You: Do you know that moment in the movies where the boy and the girl look each other in the eyes, stare for about 3 seconds and then kiss?
Girl: Yes, of course.
You: Look her in the eyes and quietly count for yourself till 3, but make sure she can hear it and then go for kiss.

But you need her in comfort zone, because she knows whats gonna come.

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Action seems to follow feeling, but really action and feeling go together, and by regulating the action, which is under the direct control of the will, we can indirectly regulate the feeling, which is not.

Seems like really good stuff. All of it.

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Mungo's presentation:
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I tried this one as well, i was gaming this girl the other night and then moved back to my friends. After a while the came to say bye, that she is leaving. (they all do, if your game is solid) So i told her something like this is how we say bye in slovakia (yep, i m slovakian), so i kissed her on one cheek, than on the other cheek and then went for kiss. Worked, i ended up with number without askin for it.

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Action seems to follow feeling, but really action and feeling go together, and by regulating the action, which is under the direct control of the will, we can indirectly regulate the feeling, which is not.

I love to use Mysteries Kiss close routine, I did it tonight and it worked a treat.

Me: Would you like to kiss me?

If they answer yes, then obviously you kiss. If they answer "Why, I don't know, etc.." you say "Lets find out"

If they say no, simply reply "I didn't say you could, it just looked like you had something on your mind"

A problem I'm having with many routines is that I think they are too transparent. I mean, who actually believes a guy who gets rejected on the question "do you wanna kiss me" and then tries to fend humiliation off by saying "I didn't say you could"? Too obvious in my opinion.. That is not to say that it may not work, only that I myself find it so obvious so I'm having trouble getting my head around the supposed fact that it should work.

I have the same problem with many other routines, for example some bullshit chick crack stuff that's just too obvious and cheesy for me to feel comfortable using them.

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Mungo's presentation:
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True, but saying "Would you like to kiss me" is fine as long as you've built enough comfort and attraction. If theres enough comfort and enough attraction, the chances of failure at this point are very slim.

True, I like this routine, it's only that I don't really believe that it's fool proof in the way that it has a working recovery plan for the however unlikely case that she says no. It's still a good routine for getting to kiss her, but I think that one should be aware that when she says "no", one is rejected and has to recover from a lesser position than one was in before posing the question.

I think just saying "that's OK, so what have you been doing earlier today" or whatever is much, much better. It shows that you're comfortable and confident and are not emotionally invested in getting a kiss, which is sooo much better than desperately trying to recover with an obvious line (which is actually a DLV if she can see through it).

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I dont really like Mysterys Do you wanna kiss me line. Why would i ask anyway? Thats like begging. And you guys are definitely right, if she says NO, you can say whatever you want, you re still gonna be the loser.

I really like much more to just go for a kiss. NOW, i always preheat the girl first, so she is comfortable to do this. And therefore i didnt ever get kissrejected. (is that actual word?)

Now if you do it, and she turns her head away, well dont fucking freak out and stop, she might be just testing if she is in control. Instead, kiss her on the neck. If you find good spot, she will get turned on and you end up kissing anyway.

So just to sum up, DONT ASK FOR KISS! Youre the MAN, the leader. Just DO IT. Once, in the middle of a conversation with a girl, i just put my lips forward like you do to demonstrate a kiss, waited a second or so and she kissed me. No words, no hassle, no problem

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Action seems to follow feeling, but really action and feeling go together, and by regulating the action, which is under the direct control of the will, we can indirectly regulate the feeling, which is not.