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Been seeing this chick for 5 months. Used to be a family friend ten years ago and has a 9 year old son. I live on my own and have a daughter three nights a week she has her son full time and can only get baby sitters etc once maybe twice a week. So seeng eachother is difficult at the best of times.

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This chick is cool defo a 8.5 but in the sack 11 out of 10 so wanna hold on to her if I can. Now she is a hot and cold person one moment she is all loved up and seems to be happy with me and the way things ar ethe next Im getting texts saying she is bored and needs to get the excitment back. I'm struggling to maintain that excitment as we see eachother very little so any tips and hints or ideas that can keep the engine ticking over whilst I am not seeing her.

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Is it good or bad that I never invite my girlfriend when I go out with my friends?
And she always invites me with her when she goes out with hers.

(she never bugs me about it, but she doesn't like the idea of me hanging out late - I like this position because it makes her a bit insecure and jealous)


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Is it good or bad that I never invite my girlfriend when I go out with my friends?
And she always invites me with her when she goes out with hers.

(she never bugs me about it, but she doesn't like the idea of me hanging out late - I like this position because it makes her a bit insecure and jealous)
Now that you thought about it,why don't you invite her once in a while ? It would be polite.
If a girl tries to make me insecure and jealous i would doze my investment on the lowest level.So I don't know about that "position",might work against you...


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I'm in a relationship for two months.. And everything was OK but then..

We usually go out every weekend.. but last week she told me she can't because she would go out with her mom (that's not the problem.. I just said "OK").. and was making excuses to not go out with me.. like the college.. she needs go to the hairdresser.. etc

But then I saw in her facebook a friend (girl) talking to her about a party that they went that night.. And right after that my gf deleted this comment.. And then I saw a picture of her in that party..

When I ask her what she did (I asked in different ways to make sure.. but not accusing her).. She just keep saying she did "nothing".. She is lying to me..

I didn't tell her that I know what she did.. And don't know if I will.. Just asked what she did..

I really think that I do everything that a guy can do for his girlfrind.. Being no needy.. Adventurous.. Giving her good emotions.. Etc.. So i just don't undestand why she is lying to me.. Why she did that..

I belive (but not sure) that she didn't cheat on me.. And I don't really care if she go out sometimes without me.. She must have a interesting life and have fun without me too.. I'm not a jeaulous guy.. What I really do care is the lie thing and what it represents..

If I ignore this fact, our relationship is going really well (I guess).. Her actions with me are good (she always tells me that likes me.. Is always available.. Sometimes romantic.. Good sex.. Calls and SMS me frequently).. even after this weekend..

Here's what I want to do.. But don't know if I will..

I'm gonna say to her.. "I know that you are hiding me something really bad.. And I'm not gonna yell with you or argue with you.. I give you one chance to tell me the truth.. Just one chance.. And if you tell me what you did.. I will forgive you.. It's your choice".. If she don't tell me.. I will just walk away forever.. But I realy like her and want to give this last chance.. Do you think she deserve this last chance??

So pls I need your a opinion about..

- When you think we should forgive someone? If she keeps calling me for 6 months saying "I'm sorry forgive me please" should I forgive her (just an example)? Or if I'm sure that she did not cheat on me, should I forgive her??
- I usually think that the best way to REALLY know someone is watching the "little things". So when something like this happens, I usually do not trust them anymore (Is that judging too much??)
- Maybe she was just too insecure and hide me the truth because she was afraid??
- How do you think I should react with her?? Just tell her calmly that I know the truth and go away forever?? Or give her a chance??

There is a quote (yours) that I'm thinking too much.. About when you dump..

"If she's hiding things and she qualifies alot (defending mental stand points and making excuses for things she does)"

That's what she did this time.. exactly that..

Sorry about my english.. ^^ I hate this language

Thanks for helping!! :)


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Call her out on it straight " did you go to a party on this night?"

No need IMO to say, I wont shout at you don't worry, sounds like your treating her like a dog or kid lol.

Be straight and take it from there, if it's a big deal, act like it isn't for now, until you see if she owns up or not.

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When you think we should forgive someone?
It depends about you in the end.What do you value less,a girl who lies but won't cheat or a girl who cheats and doesn't lie(she tells you about it afterwards) ?
What are her values ? Honesty does not appear to be on her list.Yet it is one of the pillars of a relationship.So either she isn't mature enough or...
Maybe she doesn't really want to go that exclusive.
This incident will make you invest carefully.Many people(afc) don't trust their girlfriends without any incident.
I think you should leave your relationship open,because of this.So you can go to the party without telling her


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I'm in a relationship for two months.. And everything was OK but then..

We usually go out every weekend.. but last week she told me she can't because she would go out with her mom (that's not the problem.. I just said "OK").. and was making excuses to not go out with me.. like the college.. she needs go to the hairdresser.. etc

But then I saw in her facebook a friend (girl) talking to her about a party that they went that night.. And right after that my gf deleted this comment.. And then I saw a picture of her in that party..

When I ask her what she did (I asked in different ways to make sure.. but not accusing her).. She just keep saying she did "nothing".. She is lying to me..

I didn't tell her that I know what she did.. And don't know if I will.. Just asked what she did..

I really think that I do everything that a guy can do for his girlfrind.. Being no needy.. Adventurous.. Giving her good emotions.. Etc.. So i just don't undestand why she is lying to me.. Why she did that..

I belive (but not sure) that she didn't cheat on me.. And I don't really care if she go out sometimes without me.. She must have a interesting life and have fun without me too.. I'm not a jeaulous guy.. What I really do care is the lie thing and what it represents..

If I ignore this fact, our relationship is going really well (I guess).. Her actions with me are good (she always tells me that likes me.. Is always available.. Sometimes romantic.. Good sex.. Calls and SMS me frequently).. even after this weekend..

Here's what I want to do.. But don't know if I will..

I'm gonna say to her.. "I know that you are hiding me something really bad.. And I'm not gonna yell with you or argue with you.. I give you one chance to tell me the truth.. Just one chance.. And if you tell me what you did.. I will forgive you.. It's your choice".. If she don't tell me.. I will just walk away forever.. But I realy like her and want to give this last chance.. Do you think she deserve this last chance??

So pls I need your a opinion about..

- When you think we should forgive someone? If she keeps calling me for 6 months saying "I'm sorry forgive me please" should I forgive her (just an example)? Or if I'm sure that she did not cheat on me, should I forgive her??
- I usually think that the best way to REALLY know someone is watching the "little things". So when something like this happens, I usually do not trust them anymore (Is that judging too much??)
- Maybe she was just too insecure and hide me the truth because she was afraid??
- How do you think I should react with her?? Just tell her calmly that I know the truth and go away forever?? Or give her a chance??

There is a quote (yours) that I'm thinking too much.. About when you dump..

"If she's hiding things and she qualifies alot (defending mental stand points and making excuses for things she does)"

That's what she did this time.. exactly that..

Sorry about my english.. ^^ I hate this language

Thanks for helping!! :)
If she asks you to forgive. Can't you just tease her that she has to earn it?

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There is some really good content in thus thread! Was wondering, i hav been dating this girl for a few weeks now. I was told that a guy should pay whenever we go out, because a Girl just wants to be taken care of. I was wondering, how long I should this for? I know relationships are expensive so I am prepared for the worst lol


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There is some really good content in thus thread! Was wondering, i hav been dating this girl for a few weeks now. I was told that a guy should pay whenever we go out, because a Girl just wants to be taken care of. I was wondering, how long I should this for? I know relationships are expensive so I am prepared for the worst lol
Depends on the type of girl you are dating right?

If she expects you to pay all the time, then she is not worth it.

But if you want to game her, then stop paying for everything and start getting her to pay for some too or tell her that she has to earn it etc.

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There is some really good content in thus thread! Was wondering, i hav been dating this girl for a few weeks now. I was told that a guy should pay whenever we go out, because a Girl just wants to be taken care of. I was wondering, how long I should this for? I know relationships are expensive so I am prepared for the worst lol
Depends on the type of girl you are dating right?

If she expects you to pay all the time, then she is not worth it.

But if you want to game her, then stop paying for everything and start getting her to pay for some too or tell her that she has to earn it etc.
Well said, if a girl has serious intent with me, and I do with her, plus she offers, shows her care, yeh I'll pay MOST the time if I have the money, and other times split it and odd occasion let her treat me. If you pay for her all the time and she hasn't earnt it, your her guinea pig.

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Hi.

Just wondering if you guys can provide some insights into my situation. I have a post made here:

viewtopic.php?p=379581#379581

I know she likes me, but any idea about why she is behaving the way she did?

Thanks.

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Hi.

Just wondering if you guys can provide some insights into my situation. I have a post made here:

viewtopic.php?p=379581#379581

I know she likes me, but any idea about why she is behaving the way she did?

Thanks.
Gave my opinion.

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I'm 16, if that makes things more appropriate for answering.

I went out with a 10 for a while, like seriously incredible, but then went AFC and completely blew it.

Since then, purely coincidentally, I've started hanging around with loads of her friends.

She has been away this summer, but I was wondering if it was worth trying to go for her again or should I just leave it dead and buried?

If you feel I should go for it, what do you suggest? One idea I want to do before the end of summer is have a party inviting all of her friends and send the invite out to her as well and just ignore her for most the party, but what do you suggest?

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I'm 16, if that makes things more appropriate for answering.

I went out with a 10 for a while, like seriously incredible, but then went AFC and completely blew it.

Since then, purely coincidentally, I've started hanging around with loads of her friends.

She has been away this summer, but I was wondering if it was worth trying to go for her again or should I just leave it dead and buried?

If you feel I should go for it, what do you suggest? One idea I want to do before the end of summer is have a party inviting all of her friends and send the invite out to her as well and just ignore her for most the party, but what do you suggest?
Perhaps going all AFC blew it, how did you do this? Become needy? Constantly suggesting meets and not letting her do any work?

If I were you leave it, get on with life, and have fun, your young man! If you have a party, sure invite her, that's a good move, but if she is a 10, she will get a lot of attention so you ignoring her will not work in your favour, she will just think your not interested or being a prick. Best bet would be to have fun with her, kino, and don't come across needy and desperate.

That's my piece ;)

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the bottom part was everything i did wrong! wish i woulda read this before. The thing was we lived so far apart and i figured the more we were together we wouldnt drift away. all time was towards her. ball and chain to the leg man.. dont get caught up in it, that'll push em away
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Tips on keeping the girl? Having a healthy relationship? Dos/Donts?
good question and most people ask it, however it can be messy if you apply to a set of rules.

Some rules don't apply in some relationships because every relationship is different - both 2 persons are different.
some dos could turn out bad and some donts could turn out well , it's a total paradox, You can only decide who you are and only your rules can be applied to the relationship.

Social conditioning.... Dr.Phil ( he's good guy tho ) often come up with these rules about relationship HOWEVER dr.phil is conditioning/manipulating these people to believe in these values. The couples are at his show because they have problems and phil make them believe certain values + social pressure of being on television only adds to this manipulation ( he has good intentions tho ). Some of dr.phils values also utterly destroyed some relationships.
If the dude lived up to these values but his girl didn't then it won't help anyway because one is investing more ( giving more ) than the other.

no one can teach you how to treat relationships, it's like swimming - you have to drown a few times before you can swim. Every relationship has a different swimming pool ; some with warm water, some with cold , some are stratched out, some doesn't even contain water. Be flexible and be like water - don't resist it. someone who only experienced swimming in warm water will recommend the same values/rules to someone who will swim in cold water. in warm water you can stay in for a long time - cold water ( or freezing) you cannot , some guys even swim in pools without water.

My personal rules : balance ... balance in everything - when balance gets interrupted everything turns corrupted. Naure was balanced for the last million of years ( ecosystem) even the predator on the top has a treath ; disease. thus everything is balanced. According to my opnion the concept of balanced Ecosystems ( balance of nature ) is one of the most succesfull concepts ever - nature existed for millions of years and never failed ( in balance).
It's like the eastern philosophy ''ying-yang''.
you shouldn't be investing more than your GF

so at number 1. : balance or at least trying to get balance.

my next personal favorite rule : Keep developing yourself, Your GF loves YOU and with you i mean YOU. So you have to keep investing in yourself because the best gift you can give to your GF is a Boyfriend who is in touch with himself. A BF who is the ruler of his own life.
buddhist concepts are good sources to get some understanding about this, but the RSD blueprint decoded also lay the emphasis on these concepts.
One value which you should apply to this rule is Looking at yourself first, when you read a book don't look how it could be applied into a relationship but first look how you should apply it on yourself.

Delusions :
some guys only have a 2 months relationship but act like they have a serious relationship. This is ok as long your GF thinks the same - but often this is not the case. Thus you are investing more, giving yourself up in the process and giving up balance.
Treat the relationship like it's expandable until you reach month 4 or month 6, this doesn't mean you should be picking up other girls and treat your GF like shit.

1. balance
2. keep developing yourself(inner game), you are the most important person in the relationship.
3. keep expectations down, don't expect anything

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