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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:40 pm 
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-ok so if i open a set or just 1 girl what should i talk about to build attraction if shes just a randomer?
-should i try building kino with someone i just started talking to?
-how do you keep a conversation flowing?
-what should i say to number close?
btw. this is for girls aged around 16

thanks please give me replys any advice would be helpful :)


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:16 pm 
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Remember what you did during the day try and make your grocery list amusing. Learn to tell stories and will be able to move into something that happened during your day then you will be able to form a question from your daily experiences and then move from there.


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-ok so if i open a set or just 1 girl what should i talk about to build attraction if shes just a randomer?
-should i try building kino with someone i just started talking to?
-how do you keep a conversation flowing?
-what should i say to number close?
It doesn't really matter what you do for an opener as LONG AS YOU OPEN. A good thing to do, though, is neg her. One huge thing that works is "you are absolutely adorable, too bad you're not my type." She'll automatically need to qualify herself to YOU, not the other way around. Then continue with rapport.

Yes, you should definitely kino-escalate when you first meet her. Don't be a creep, but touch her arm or something, grab her hand and linger for a bit. Give it a squeeze, whatever.

Keeping a conversation flowing? Just let it go. Have fun and relate to her. If the conversation goes dead, ask an obscure question. In fact, Reckless here suggested this, and it works. Even if you don't continue on the topic, you will have more things she's talking about to let her give you things to talk about. "If you were an animal, which one would you be?" "Why?" "If you had 100 dollars and a plane ticket to anywhere in the world, where would you spend it?" "Why?"

Number closes are easy, and you're 16, so it's even easier. Make sure you leave before she has a chance to. You are busy. You have a schedule. Go find your friends. Make them the excuse to leave. Say something like "I have to go meet up with my buddy, put your number in my phone. I'll call you later." Done.

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:29 pm 
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Im not sure you should just ask an obscure question; people can usually tell if your trying to keep a conversation going. Plus, a random question doesn't really scream subtle either. I would think that someone can tell your trying to keep a conversation going if this is the dialogue:

HB: Yeah, so thats why the fair wasn't so fun...
PUA: Oh, I see... so it was the giant spinny thing that gave you a headache the whole day.
HB: Yep...
PUA: I hate that too!
HB: Yeah I know.
(Silence)
PUA: If you had 100$, what would you spend it on?

Although I did stage it very horribly, the extremely fast transition from one thing to another is too obvious. I will admit fluffing works sometimes, and I did undermine the line you used, to set it up in a worst-case scenario, but I wouldn't use it personally.

I knew a natural who could talk for hours, I always got lost in his funny, exciting, dramatic, and weird stories. He would talk for HOURS on end, but it would seem like minutes and I could hear them for the next 50 years. He made stories out of anything, from the funny things waitresses do at restaurants or things that didn't make sense that he'd read in a book. The key was, and I just figured this out recently, he CHAINED stories together. For example, he talked about getting an ankle sprain playing basketball, used some funny lines and whatnot, and then talked about all his sports injuries... to tennis and hockey and such.

And he also smoothly incorporated questions, too, so I could have a chance at my stories. For example, he'd say: Yeah, and fried butter is disgusting! I tried it at the fair, have you?

I'd say, no, too scared.

He'd say, oh, what have you tried at the fair? And comment while I'm telling what I did at the fair. Because he talked so much about his cool and funny moments, I subconsciously qualify myself to him, by trying to add cool or funny moments in mine, where, being the natural he is, completely DLV's me with my own stories. In the end, the conversation is completely dictated by him, plus time is lost and I could sit there for years! With chaining stories, there is no dead conversation.


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I suppose imprint may have a point, but I can't really say that it hasn't worked. Most girls like to talk. Giving them an opportunity to do so just makes them talk themselves into your bedroom. It's all about rapport and making them comfortable at this point. Plus, it doesn't have to be a completely unrelated obscure question, just something a little different than they might get asked. Don't make it the run-of-the-mill small talk they hear all of the time. Make it something they can remember you by.

what reckless said is good, too, if you don't like the questions idea. Your grocery list can be interesting if you make it seem that way. Lead an interesting life and it will give you things to talk about. Have stories and tell them!

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Yes i agree with both of these, chaining stories together works wonders, conversation can lead off on totally different tangents, and whoever your talking to will sit and listen for a while, all the time qualifying themselves too you.

However, you can't just try and chain random stories together and hope she'll find them interesting, try to use stories that could all be relevant too a 16 year old girl, things she'll find interesting so she can comment and give some input, otherwise you'll lose her.

Just be interesting, chain stories, and to number close do exactly what Aznpersuasion said, i've used it personally and it's brilliant :)

Pyro, peace x


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give this a try after you use some of the things we have covered.

Challenges
• She will start to qualify herself which will make you higher value
• Use after the hook point
• Use If she get a little too comfortable in the conversation
• Put pressure on her and force her to invest in conversation

Example:

• If everyone looked the same how would you stand out? Can you cook? Are you rich?
• Beauty is common but there are a few things that I look for in a woman, like confidence, goals and their ability to be passionate




you should KNOW the kind of woman you want before you use challenges it will give you depth that 99% of guys dont have.

she will start pulling more weight in the conversation and will take the workload off of you. This is when you can just let the convo flow........... PULL!


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