xxIcexx makes a great point... looks can only get her so far, I was winging my friend the other day and he told me he likes tall women... and a HB10 was standing not so far away and I said

Me:hey how do you deal with that?
HB10: deal with what?
Me: almost every guy here stares... not looks they stare... I mean you're a good looking girl but I don't know about all that staring...
HB10: I don't know I guess I don't notice it
Me: This is my friend Ted
(in the back her friend is looking all bored so I engaged her)
Me: I was just asking your friend how she deals with all these guys who just stare.
HB6: well look at her she's beautiful
Me: Sure she is but beauty can only get you so far
HB6: oh she's really smart too
Ted: is she now??? how so

and she started qualifying herself to my friend... me and the HB6 went and had a chat about nothing really while my friend number/dance/kiss on the dance floor closed!

it was beautiful

I like to stereotype them.

If she's blond call her the "Paris Hilton" of the group. Continue to call her 'Paris' until she's at her breaking point for frustration with proving her individuality to you. Then say "OK, OK ________(her real name)" I'm sorry. Let's go do a shot together. In general, after a girl is interested they like to hear you say their name. Because of the neg you've made the fact that you even know their name really count.

It also works well because you can make fun of her without knowing much about her. If she ignores you and is looking at her cell phone say "Are you waiting for someone to call about your lost chihuahua?" If she says something to you (especially if it's negative), ask "Excuse me, Paris? Did you just say "That's hot?"" and laugh at her expense.

Another reason it works well is because her girlfriends will think it's hilarious. While none of your guy friends would think making fun of Paris Hilton is funny (because it's not), her girlfriends will think this is the funniest material ever. They eat this gossipy crap up.

So stick to the US Weekly tramps for your stereotypes. i.e Aniston, Lohan, Jolie etc.
If you call her Aniston - you're a nice looking girl but I bet you get cheated on a lot. <Act like you feel sorry for her>
If you call her Jolie - I heard you make out with your brother. I don't go for nutjobs like you. Where's your blood vile necklace?
If you call her Lohan - Did you just go to the bathroom to snort coke again? <Ask her friend if she's her sponsor>

Be creative.

Is it better to neg a 10s personality or there look?

on their looks!!! they don't give a f*ck what you think of their personalities... they love it... but they try too hard to look their best and if you're not all over them for that... then they start to chase you...

READ THE GAME!!!!

There are no 10's



but everyone is right, sameway, just pick out some dumb little flaw

"you blink alot" always makes me laugh

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"Go confidently in the direction of your dreams. Live the life you have imagined."
- Henry David Thoreau

This isn't true at all. I work with hot girls on a daily, and most of them are some of the most insecure woman I have ever met. A lot of these openers can sound very harsh, becareful in your delivery.

I think fatty hotties have bigger egos than HB8+ . Most girls who are hot are looked at often by every single type of man, or girls who grew up with naturally big tits and have been guaked at from early teens are usually more uncomfortable with themselves because of the akward attention from not just a few men but a LARGE amount of men over a long period of time. When a girl is a 10 she is a target to all men.

A Pick up artist is the exception to the rule.

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"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel"

so uR saying a pick-up artist shouldn't consider the hottest woman on the set target worthy??? I think you take that statement way too serious or too far...

What! Please Re - Read

Let me say it in different words...

Girls who are 10's are targeted by all men. PERIOD. Everyday of their life. ( How do I know I role with 10's)

So you must not do what everyone else is doing, a pick up artist must be the exception to the rule, you must not do what everyone else is doing.

Including EVERYONE in here exchanging "OPENERS" these girls have heard before.

Meaning BE CREATIVE, take a chance and be willing to lose the girl.

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"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel"

Great input CHELSEA.... all of which can be found in the game if aspiring PUAs would shell out a few bucks to invest in themselves and their own personal game!!


CHELSEA WROTE: Meaning BE CREATIVE, take a chance and be willing to lose the girl.


QUOTE FROM THE GAME; "To get a woman you must be able to risk losing her."


Again great input Chelsea;



GUYS if you havent read the book, please READ it...


second I agree with Chelsea... be creative... do not rely on the canned openers...an opener is anything you want it to be.


few examples that i used this weekend(none of which i read in a book, saw on tv, or found in this forum)


do either of you know what "superman that hoe" actually means ?


I see you two making fun of that guy and girl dancing on the floor.


girl receives text message as im walking by: I hope he was giving you good news...


my point is anything can be an opener... take chelseas advice be creative

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Yah I try

What has worked best on me as a HB8

When I read the "GAME" And "Double Your Dating" I couldnt believe how right these men were. I mean really and truely everything they are teaching is 100% correct and how we woman respond to men.

Mystery is so right SMILE woman love nice teeth, either get yours fixed or get them whitened. Walk into a room confident and smiling. GIRLS HAVE THEIR RADARS ON TO

BE Cocky Funny with a nice smile, thats the fucking hottest.

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"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel"

yeah thats why i had my mom get me a bleach set...she works for a dentist so i get all the good stuff for free

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I'd rather go out swinging than strike out looking.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
What I say when I see her is what I'll say.

i think its easier to neg a 10... because she thinks that she is perfect ... it will have a bigger effect on her .. while some 4+- knows that her hair (for instance) is the only think that looks good on her so if u neg that kind of bush-monkey... i dont think she'll be surprised.... well you getting what im saying ?!