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OK, first off this is a EXTREMELY long post, and here are some points:
- This is a very detailed post of techniques and concepts I used. I recommend new comers read it for the breakdown/application and veterns read it to critique.
- This was my first application of all principles at once and will give an excellent idea of how this 'game' fits together when you've actually LEARNT ALL THE BASICS.
- I DID NOT f-close this girl. But if I wanted to, I could have (read).
- I put this in the lay reports because of how far it went (S2)
- This occured over 7 hours
- I'm going to Credit/Source all the information I used
- I'll point out certain routines I created on spot or in advance. Feel Free to use on your own.
- This isn't a play-by-play and I'll edit the fluff, by major points/turns will be noted

Background: Me
- I've been a rAFC for 3 weeks now. Background (click)
- I've read 'The Game', Mystery Method, and DYD.
- My natural "style" is pure Cocky & Funny
- My Peacock of the day was this: Source: Mystery Method
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Background: Her
- A girl I knew in University but hadn't seen in person for 4 years
- I had arranged our meeting via IM. Technique here (click)
- She lives in a rural area outside of my city (important for my NEGS)
- Her rating: HB6 lower rating because face isn't too there
- Her picture (notice a familiar hat :D):
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Situation
- This was a get-together under pretenses we hadn't seen each other in a while and the last time she saw me was when I was a bAFC.
- I had been stuffed in the friends-zone a long time ago
- I had NO expectations going into this, rather I just wanted to practice my new 'game' on an unsuspecting person.

REPORT
The Night prior to meeting I send a IM to her. "I'm showing up tommorow, send me your phone number for when I arrive". I get a response in the Morning "My Number is _________, adress _________".

So I arrive in the rural city. I find the area of the place there's two apartment buildings in this small area. So I goto a local store and use their phone. Time for my 'Phone Game'. Source: Juggler (click)

Me: "Hi this is Holden. Is Kelly(psuedonym) there?"
Her: "This is Kelly"
Me: "So which barn is your's around here?"(NEG)
Her: *stunned* (giggles) blah blah blah
Me: OK.
Her: (She starts to fluff but I hang up, the convo's for in person)

I arrive. She meets me in the parking lot. As I arrive, I guess an old friend of hers does too. They start catching up between themselves and I'm just hanging back. (Shit I'm DLV'ing by not talking). Then she tries to introduce me:

Her: Of where are my mann-....
Me: *Interupt* Excuse her she's very rude (slight push, KINO). I'm Holden.

Introductions, fluff. We make it inside her apartment. I ask for the tour. Halfway through after going to her bedroom and looking for a bit to disqualify the akwardness of entering later. Source: DYD
Before the tour is done, I break it off with "I'm using your bathroom" (In a stern uninterested tone). She's stunned and as I closes the door I hear a giggle.

After dropping some vile product with no air-freshener in site, I open a window then go back to her.
Me: "Yeah, I couldn't find any air-freshner in there after I rummaged through all your cabinets nosily. So you might want to give that...*pause* A year."
Her: (Laughs). Blah blah blah (Location of Air Freshener)
Me: Whatever. (I did eventually spray it, but not at her suggestion)

I get the low down on her 3 other roomates (I think, Ok some major issues with CB for tonight). However, none are there at the time. I grab a Cosmo off her shelf and NEG her by reading chick articles that are all BS. So she get's ready and I ask what's fun to do in the rural town. She suggests a pool hall (see above pic) and she's got a free coupon for 2 hours. I think "Great, I don't have to pay like an AFC". So we head out to the parking lot.

Her: I guess you want to drive then... (She has a car)
Me: Yup.
Her: *Trying to DHV* Well that's mine over there...

I look and see a brand new Sedan, where I'm driving a 13 Year-Old Pickup Truck (Shit Test). But I notice next to the Sedan she pointed to is a rusted-to-shit beater. I point to it and say something like:
Me: Wow, you really keep it in good shape.
Her: *Validating* No No, it's the Sedan. Blah Blah *Continues validating*
Me: Whatever...

We hop in the truck:
Her: You better have good music
Me: Ahuh *Music starts*
Her: Oh, ok. I like this.
After 1 minute driving, I take out the CD and pop in another one 'I WANT' to listen too (but she likes). Then we fluff about music till we get to the pool hall. Before parking the truck I for shits and giggles, park and move, park and move. Finally, I park taking up two spots.

Her: You can't just take up two spots!
Me: *sarcastic* Why the fuck not? I think my baby(refering to truck) deserves the best.
Her: Blah Blah Blah
Me: I let her "convince me" and I park it.

TIME SHIFT

We arrive at the pool hall. The place is obviously dead. And we walk up to the bartendar at the counter UG5.
Me: Hey, are you open or did you forget to lock the place up?
HB6: *giggles*
UG5: Blah Blah Blah
I let 'Kelly' deal with the business while I walk away.

We start playing and the entire time I C&F her into oblivion. Source: DYD.
In fact, I did it so much that she got not so much pissed, but bored/angered. I picked up on it immediately, so thinking quick I started to validate her to bring her back up. But right after giving her some credit I whipped out my camera. And by 'Accident' I show her the previous pictures stored on it. Enter Photo Routine. Source: Style
They're of my day prior: A Family BBQ. This routine created INCREDIBLE DHV! Photo Routine with kids in the pictures is AMAZING for DHV. So I explain all my family members and what we did. We play a couple games for an hour and fluff about life. It comes to the point were the pool hall is dragging on with just us in it. I threw in some kino the whole time to just be playfull. Finally, she sinks an 8-Ball on the last game.

Me: One second *Walk to the bartender* Excuse me I need some advice, is it a GOOD thing or a BAD thing, when your opponent sinks the Black ball first?
HB6: *Shocked* OMG! (Kino)

We pay up and 'Kelly' drops the line.
Her: So what are you doing for supper?
Me: Eating. I hear food is pretty good these days. *evasive*
Her: No tonight.
Me: Well I'm not driving home to eat if that's what your asking. What's good to eat in this town.

Fluff. Jump in the truck and head out. I head to the bank first for some cash. We get there and I literally treated her like a DOG. Source: Ross Jeffries(?)

Me: Ok, now I'm going in there for only a couple minutes. Your going to stay here. Look, I'll even leave a crack in the window for you so you can stick your head out of it.
Her: *Shocked* Blah Blah....
Me: Meh. *Open door, goto bank*
I come back
Me: Ok, so it looks like you didn't make a mess.
Her: Blah Blah
Me: What? I told you I'd leave the window down a bit? Jeesh, why are you so needy?(NEG)

TIME SHIFT

We goto the restaurant. I pull the AFC move of opening the door for her on purpose.
Her: Oh, your so polite! (Shit Test)
*There's two sets of doors, and she opens the next one a walks in*
Me: Well I thought you'd return the fuckin' favour *sarcastic*
Her: OMG! I'm sorry....

We head up to the person who seats us.
UG5: Where would you like to sit today (implying Bar or Restaurant)
Me: Do you guys got chairs? I hear there good
UG5: *Stunned*
HB6: (Laughs as I DLV'd the waitress)
Me: No, No, I want a booth. I see some over there. Sit us there.

We sit, we order. We Fluff. Then I created this routine on spot to demonstrate scarcity and preselection.

Dating versus a Relationship Routine
Me: You know, I can't stand when my friends get wrapped up with the same girl.
HB6: What do you mean?
Me: Well my friend 'John' is one of these guys who just clings onto any girl that shows him the slightest interest. I mean his last girlfriend was the first girl who ever had sex with him. They went out for 3 years! But in that time, she cheated on him twice! And took her back both times!
HB6: OMG! Why would he do that?
Me: Well you see 'John' is what I'd like to call a Pussy. He was happy getting whatever he could. You know, just so desperate for compassion that it didn't matter where it came from. But his girlfriend knew this and whenever someone better came along she would jump at him and come back to 'John' as he was steady. Source: Mystery Method (Alpha vs. Beta Males)
HB6: Thats so sad, blah blah blah.
Me: But that's not the worst. When i say "two times" I actually mean two 'binges'. Like 4-5 guys the first time. *Non chalant* No wait, only 3 guys. She only jerked off the last guy.
HB6: *Shocked Reaction*
Me: Anyways, I know I never want to be like him. I don't want to be so attached to someone that I can't think of nothing but them.
HB6: But what about when you meet that 'Special Person'?
Me: There is no "Special Person". I think people are constantly changing, and that what we want now isn't what we want in 3-5 years.
HB6: But what if you change together?
Me: Yes, that could work. But if I'm with someone and they cheat on me I'm gone. I'm not wasting my time on someone who would do that too me.
I mean, when I'm with someone it's not like I only for them.
HB6: Even your girlfriend?
Me: Well I should seperate when I'm 'dating' someone and when I'm in a 'relationship.
HB6: What do you mean?
Me: It's nothing for me to date more than one woman at a time. But when I'm in a relationship, I consider my word as bond. And she has to 'Trust' that I'm not going to cheat. And if she can't trust me, then why am I with her?

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I fucked up shortly after by taking her bait about her ex-fiance. But the routine dismissed it because she was like my friend 'John' with him.

Fluff. Finish meal. The waitress comes to give the bill.
Shit Test
Waitress: So how are you paying for this?
Me: Just one bill (AFC move). She's gonna get it.
HB6: *Surprise*
Me: What? Oh you think I'm cheap like that? You gotta pay to keep me around. *To waitress* Nah dear, seperate bills.

We Leave. I get in my truck, her doors locked. I sit, change CD's, start the engine and she knocking on the window. I wave goodbye then pull out a bit, but I open the door and we head back to her place. On the way I develop Deep Rapport about my dying GrandFather and DHV about my work I used to do with a charity (I have no shame).

We arrive. Before we enter I lay down a routine I created.

Adam and Eve Routine (DHV Motivation)
Me: You know I was thinking one day by myself.
Her: About what?
Me: Well you know the story of Adam and Eve, right?
Her: Yeah... (creepy about religious tones)
Me: Well I mean they were dismissed from paradise. I mean they went from having everything to being pushed out into the cruel world. But I thought about it more and I realized that it was actually a good thing.
Her: How so?
Me: Well what do you appreciate more. Something that's given to you, or something that you've earned?
Her: Well...something I've earned.
Me: That's right. That's why I think it was a good thing they got kicked out, because every good experience they had and everything they gained was because of their hard work. It made them appreciate what they had. I can honestly say that I've earned everything I have in my life and every "good time" I experience and every laugh I take is because I earned it. And I'm not going to apologize to anyone for what I've earned.

We get in her apartment. Oh no! Roommates!
First Roommate: 'Kevin' (I'm pre-emptive)
Me: Hey man, how's it going *handshake*
Kevin: Heya
Limp handshake and bad posture. Typical Beta-male. He slinks off and doesn't bother me for the rest of the night.

Second Roommate: 'Tammy'
Me: Heya! *wave as she's across the room*
Tammy: Hello
I focus on her because she's also a HB6. I findout she's a grad-student. Her Master's is a subject I know a lot about. I disqualify with her by only using pure logic and facts. But its about her field so she treats it like casual business as I DHV by knowing obscure terms and lexicon about her field. We fluff for about 20 minutes while 'Kelly' ducks into her room. Kelly comes back and we kill some time.

Third and Fourth Roommates: 'Tad and Rose'
Kelly: Holden this is Tad and Rose.
Me: Hey Tad.
Tad: Hey man.
Right off the bat the guy is dressed good, confident, and 'Rose' is a HB8. Fuck, he's a natural. We shoot the shit and he goes away.

Kelly and I are killing time before we head out for the night to a club. So we play cards. But not before I run the ring routine on her Source: Style. She says it's probably bullshit. I agree but run it anyways. At the end I say that the two rings on her middle and ring finger show a conflict of independence and love life (I knew she just broke it off with her ex-fiance). She also makes a comment about me being 'dominant' (DHV) because she noticed my rings on the index finger. We play cards and I try the ESP test Source: Style. It fails (it was an 8 ). But I followup with "I didn't say I was good at it".

Rose pluncks down and the three of us watch TV. Some chick flick that Tad and I rip apart mercilously in front of the girls as with both team up and C&F them for watching it. (I made him work with me :D)

Anyways, as we C&F them I call them both dorks and retards. While building the kino by taking pillows and 'slapping' them with it. Eventually, 'Kelly' grabs my hat(see her pic).
Me: Hey Hey! You can look all you want. But touching costs extra! AMOG
Excellent response by all.

Anyways, I FTC with the roommies by saying were going out dancing. And we fluff about places to go on a Sunday night. Eventually we do head out.

TIME SHIFT

We're in the downtown of the rural area and of course its empty. We head to one pub and it's all old people playing Celtic music. I snap a picture. I let lose with the C&F as I've gauged her tolerance for it.
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So after nothing good is open. I say.
Me: So what do you want to do since nothing exciting to do here?
Her: Well if you want to go home you could. Or we could go back to my place and watch a movie.
Now 'Tad and Rose' made it clear that their watching chick shows tonight, so there's only one place to watch the movie....Bedroom!

We get back. It's just 'Tad and Rose' there. I show them the pic (above) and they laugh. (I've gained the roommmates social acceptance by now DHV). So 'Kelly' and I head to her bedroom and she asks if I want a drink of water. I say sure (I figure, WTF). Anyways she gets the water I hog her bed and we start watching the moving. I continue to C&F some more when the movie messes up in the first bit (it was on a laptop).

Phase Shift
She walks in the room and closes the door (IOI) but doesn't lock it.
So I'm on the bed and she's on the bed. I figure I'll play this by going to the spoon position and forcing her to snuggle. No luck.
I start driving the kino every now and then with mini-pillow fights. And little wrestling breaks out. Eventually I get her to spoon (almost). we're in the position, but she's not tight against me. At one time I yank her close but she moves back. I figure "WTF am I doing wrong???"

I get up and say I gotta goto the washroom. (I'm getting thinking time). I see 'Tad and Rose' are gone and everyone else is asleep. Except for 'Kevin' who looks at me in that AFC-way of "I hate guys like you (jelousy)"
I'm thinking it's like the roomies want me to f-close her. I come back from the washroom.

EUREKA! I see she's gotten what she wanted. A content little tough-boy who goes AFC when with women intimately! So instantly I switch to sitting position away from her when I sit down. She shifts position, and is kinda jilted cause I stopped. I drink some water and I flick some water at her. When she fights back I threaten to pour it on her bed. Eventually I figured I did enough and switch back to spoon. Back still nothing. By now its been about 1 hour watching this movie, and I know it's gonna end in like 40 minutes and my FTC is up and I gotta leave. I Freeze Out again.

Then something fucking totally unexpected happens. She leans over, grabs her water glass and fucking pours it all over me! I react and dump mine on her and she semi-hit me accidentally in the head with her cup. I feign injury, curse her for pouring it on me *jokingly*. And wonder "WTF did I create". Then SHE MOUNTS me and has got a leg rubbing against my crotch! I haven't even kissed her yet! I later realized on the drive home, that I had "Fried Her Circuits" by keeping her in S2 and not advancing. Source: I forget

I look up at her, and what's staring back at me? A big set of DDB eyes. I got her... Then I fake the sympathy for my wet clothes a bit. I eventually take off the blue polo (she smiles). We fluff, then she puts up a LMR with a shit test:

Her: Why do you wear clothes like that?
Me: Huh?
Her: I mean the polo over the shirt?
Me: WTF are you talking about? *Mind racing trying to think*
Her: These clothes there so....
Me: *Interrupt* Well some of us have style. And some of us have.... *pinch her top slightly with a cocky disgusted look*
Her: *laughs**giggles*

I roll her over to full spoon. Do the heavy breathing in the ear. Arm around her. She starts stroking my arm and leg with me the big spoon, I squezze her hand a bit and she looks at me now and then, looking at me just trying to contain herself from diving straight into my lips.

But I stop. I freeze out for the last time. I shift to sitting position at the end of the bed. I grab my shoes, put them on. Put my polo back on over my shirt. Then comment on the time and walk right out of that apartment with her standing at the door.

So Why? After doing all this and analyzing every single moment the entire day?

Fish in a barrel my friend. She's a friend and I just stuffed her into MY LJBF zone. After 4 years of being looked down on by her, I just did a 180 on her. Some of you may think I'm a complete asshole, some might think I'm gay, Some a cruel/vindictive person. But I tell you what, the smile that was across my face walking out of there with the knowledge that I now possessed a skill (granted still very underdeveloped) to do that, was an orgasm in itself.

I'm going to be a PUA. And for me...6 isn't good enough.


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great, entertaining post!


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Best post I have read on here so far. I give you lots of props bro.


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nice, great post.


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*stands up and applauds*

Wow! Great great post kepth me interested the whole time. Im just starting this PUA stuff and this really helps me out seeing how you put your game togethor. Great job with HB6 and your thread. Hope read more from you in the future.


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i can't believe you dropped a deuce in her apartment.

you still should have railed her. i mean...you would still have that confidence of knowing that you COULD have walked out.


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bravo holden i love how at the end you turned a 180 against, even though she was the one that she looked you down upon....this inspires to to turn my one-itis status upside down


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love it. just don't make it a habit. lol would have loved to know what she was thinking. :lol:


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haha, *applause and claps* that was so beautiful, and i loved the ending, it was not gay.

I remember when i did this to my ex
I was always so shy speaking to her friends whenever i was around her, but then that changed when i started the game.

my ex asked, so "what girl are you into now?" trying to DLV me, but i had a trick up my sleeve. i said, " well, i'm not into girls anymore, in fact, you turned me gay, i guess you just do that to guys," everybody started laughed at her, and i just smiled knowing, "hehehe, Lucky wins."

lol.


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1 thing i noticed is that the lower on the scale they are (yours is a 6) the less gaming you need to do, it sounds like you was a bit too C+F and could have done better with being a little nicer and some push pulling,

Enjoyable read tho :)


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1 thing i noticed is that the lower on the scale they are (yours is a 6) the less gaming you need to do, it sounds like you was a bit too C+F and could have done better with being a little nicer and some push pulling,

Enjoyable read tho :)
Yeah, I agree. After re-read and thinking about it a bit, I did find I pushed the line a bit into just being a jerk. But I think she had some underlying LSE that allowed me to continue.

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Perfect close to your thread man. :)


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