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Alright amigo, college game is a forte of mine. I live in a state with 3 of the biggest party schools in the country, my playground is wide. Here's a few things I find important.

1. Study NLP. It'll make you curious and trust me a state of curiousity is key. You'll be able to communicate on many levels, especially the perfect 10's. They love that shit. Don't worry about your reputation, if you're getting the high valued woman interested in you it'll be fine. It'll make jealousy plotlines all the more epic.

2. Pretend to be looking for someone when crashing a party. I usually just walk into random houses like I own em and start screaming out "Where's Ashley?"
No one really ever questions it, and if you do get approached tell em ur looking for Ashley and that her phone died.

3. Always enter a party with the intention of adding value. I highly suggest learning to freestyle with a wing. There's usually about 2 people in a party that can rap and just entertain the fuck out of 20 heads. Let it be you, this is a performance art remember? I like to start rapping like 5 minutes after I get inside a place. Sometimes you will even find a place with a mic and instrumentals. You don't need try and go all eminem, it doesn't take much to develop social proof here.

4. Have 3 girls down to party or chill at all times. Who knows when some social proof will be needed. I have 3 homegirls I grew up with and they're all beautiful. They know I'm a practicing venusian artist, and they love it. I've thought em alot, and they love it when I teach em about social dynamics. We analyze sets for each other all the time. If PUA is a passion let your friends in on it, they'll help contribute to your journey in more ways than you can imagine. If you're not staying in state and can't bring the girls with you, well then go make new ones and wash rinse repeat. You magically find yourself with a whole new set of cubes to interpret.

5. You're the average of the 5 people you're standing the closest to. Associations are key, plus some people are just plain evil. Be careful about who you let into your entourage.

6. Every othe weekend just head for an adventure at another campus. Even if you don't know anybody the combination of "where's ashley?" And "do you mind if I freestyle?" Will get you into many parties. It is a universal tactic. You can practice without having to worry about your reputation, you could be someone new every party you crash.

7. HAVE FUN. Really, just think fun the entire time. Be van wilder, or anyother party god. Learn the art of modeling, in order to reproduce the results of another indivisual you must 1. Know there belief. 2 Mimic they're physiology. & 3 understand their mental symtax.

I'm not gonna go too deep on these ideas. If you got a question, google it. =P
Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of this. It is a huge help to me and everyone else on the forums asking about this.

1. I am always reviewing a lot of the tools used in Speed Seduction which is all NLP. Even if it is canned patterns, I think I got NLP covered.

2. Genius advice for crashing a party. I'm guessing after a minute or two of searching, I blend in.

3. I'm not much of a rap person but I see your point. You gotta do something cool to raise your value as fast as possible. What else can I do aside from freestyling?

4. Everyone in my life hates all venusian arts and PUA material. They all think it is a scam. It is a little nerve racking to do that but if I could have some pivots (female wings) by my side, they would not only raise my value but I would raise theirs as well. I'm sure when I really trust a girl, I will let her in on it and I'm my friends and family will be interested when they see the impending results.

5. I'm gonna be very careful with who I associate with but that is hard because I don't wanna be mean to people.

6. My twin brother is going to one of the top party schools in the state school system so I will visit him even if he is three hours away. I may even bring some friends from my college with me, especially if they are attractive girls.

7. That's the goal. I heard someone say the goal of pickup is to make sure you are having more fun than the girl. I totally believe this and will work hard this Summer to make that my mindset.
1. Get the book, "Introduction to NLP" I'm not just talking scripts, NLP is the modern day user manual for the mind it's made mea better musician and I'm working on implying it to various aspects of my life. Get Think and Grow Rich" by Napoleon Hill too. It's the bible of success.

2. You don't even have to look, it's just a declaration of your purpose just in case whoevers home it is, is curious. It suspends the critical factor.

3. Any sort of Flash Game, illusions/card tricks, bringin a portable instrument ( I bring my guitar or harmonica out some nights, hell i'll even post up and play songs for money on a curb for pizza.), you can go up to whereever the musics coming from and play a song that everyone will rock out too and be the one getting everyone pumped up ( Sum 41, lady gaga, blink 182 etc.). Just take a peronal inventory of what ur talents are and work em into routines.

4. Watch The Secret, and get yourself a proper outlook, thoughts become things amigo. The Huna Principle might be something you should look into.

5. It's not about being mean, it's about having standards. A false time contraint has multiple uses, it can be a polite way to just get away from an orbitor, I like to tell em I gotta go outside for a call and if they approach yu again, I tell em I have a important Call Of Duty match to get mentally ready for and that I need to focus on my pregame ritual. Pretty much learn to qualify people quick, you can elicit the values of guys too, after all they're your bridge for many more partys. Make it a mission to find out what a personvalues most.

6. A 3 hour trip can be brutal, make sure you plan out all ur stops, and that you have a place to stay for the whole weekend. If your going that far mind as well turn it into a epic trip. Make sure you have a mp3 plug in to your radio that way everyone can take turns picking songs off their ipods or whatever. 3 hours is a long time to keep the energy up in the car, bring a hacky sack and break it out when you just wanna get outta the car.

7. Hell a amigo, get it done. Tell me how it goes. A positive mindset is crucial for college game. Somehow find other PUA's on the campus, and go create the experience of a lifetime. WHo knows maybe 2012 rwill chang things so before we all get fucked, go fuck around and make some magical memorys. This is your reality amigo, focus on the desired outcomes.


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Watch Nick Sparks his college game is pretty legit.

http://www.the21convention.com/2009/09/ ... t21c-2009/
Thanks a lot for this!! I just finished watching it and it really had some great advice in it. I don't drink and if I ever do in college, I would fake it like what he said.


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haha for sure. The minute keg stand is legit busted that out at the last kegger I went to.


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Thanks for the great advice! I have been doing a lot of research on what other PUAs think of college game and these replies match my findings and make them even clearer. I think I am a poor conversationalist because I really do not know what women like to talk about. I have been in conversations in the past and whenever a topic they consider bad comes around, the conversation ended immediately. I think I am an interesting person but most people will think I am not. I don't think people want to hear about how I got started on my career in video game journalism when I was 14 and am continuing it. I don't care about being interesting because I believe I already am. Tons of guys get women without being interesting. They can just be obnoxious morons but I refuse to be one of those and I think everyone learning this stuff can agree with that. I just need to find good conversation topics that are guaranteed to work with more than 50% of women. That can be done through trial and error unless you guys have suggestions.

I am gonna get plenty of approaching practice starting again this weekend and continuing onwards. At the end on July, I got college orientation. That will be the first chance to gain friends in college. The thing that worries me the most is this whole social proof thing. In high school, I always had low value partly because of who I associated with. I feel college may be the same thing. I am also nervous that my interests in technology, video games and other nerdy things will make people automatically perceive me as low value but I don't think people are that shallow or judgmental. As long as my personality shines, that should not be a problem. The best thing I can do now is just follow the great advice you guys have given me so far and hone my skills on my free time. Repetition is key with pickup. If you guys have any more advice, reply.
I love video games. Every dude loves video games. Girls like them too, they are just more casual gamers. Im a physics major btw, and asian (im a stereotype). But I use my major as an advantage because girls think that intelligence is something desired and it becomes a DHV.

The key to successful college gaming is DHV without doing anything and this requires you to chat up ALOT of girls. Building women around you this is the biggest social proof. doesnt even matter if you dont fuck them . IF you have girls flocking to you it shows your DHV.


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Thanks for the great advice! I have been doing a lot of research on what other PUAs think of college game and these replies match my findings and make them even clearer. I think I am a poor conversationalist because I really do not know what women like to talk about. I have been in conversations in the past and whenever a topic they consider bad comes around, the conversation ended immediately. I think I am an interesting person but most people will think I am not. I don't think people want to hear about how I got started on my career in video game journalism when I was 14 and am continuing it. I don't care about being interesting because I believe I already am. Tons of guys get women without being interesting. They can just be obnoxious morons but I refuse to be one of those and I think everyone learning this stuff can agree with that. I just need to find good conversation topics that are guaranteed to work with more than 50% of women. That can be done through trial and error unless you guys have suggestions.

I am gonna get plenty of approaching practice starting again this weekend and continuing onwards. At the end on July, I got college orientation. That will be the first chance to gain friends in college. The thing that worries me the most is this whole social proof thing. In high school, I always had low value partly because of who I associated with. I feel college may be the same thing. I am also nervous that my interests in technology, video games and other nerdy things will make people automatically perceive me as low value but I don't think people are that shallow or judgmental. As long as my personality shines, that should not be a problem. The best thing I can do now is just follow the great advice you guys have given me so far and hone my skills on my free time. Repetition is key with pickup. If you guys have any more advice, reply.
I love video games. Every dude loves video games. Girls like them too, they are just more casual gamers. Im a physics major btw, and asian (im a stereotype). But I use my major as an advantage because girls think that intelligence is something desired and it becomes a DHV.

The key to successful college gaming is DHV without doing anything and this requires you to chat up ALOT of girls. Building women around you this is the biggest social proof. doesnt even matter if you dont fuck them . IF you have girls flocking to you it shows your DHV.
That's absolutely true. Having tons of girls around you shows that you have pre-selection. It does not matter to other people if you fuck the girls that flock to you but it would matter to me. After all, sex is the end goal and if that is not happening, then what would be the point of learning all of this? Surely there are small important goals on the journey to being a PUA but sex should happen in the end. This is the ultimate DHV but I do have one concern. I personally have never seen a girl who wants a guy that is intelligent and smart. Obviously, if you found this community and learn pickup, you gotta be an intelligent person to understand it and apply it so pretty much every person learning this stuff is intelligent, including me.

People tell me I am smart all the time but I have never seen anyone attracted to intelligence. Girls in my area just want a guy that can have a good time, no matter how stupid he is. Most of those guys show dominance by treating the girls like total garbage and it makes me so furious because nobody deserves to be treated that way. It seems like the stupidest guys, some of whom do get F's on their report cards attract the most women. It is just so hard to comprehend women being attracted to smarts based on my experiences. Can you shed more light on this?


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Ok so I had my orientation a few days ago and it was fun. I made more progress there than in the last 5 years of my life. I made friends with a girl (for the first time sadly) who is really cute and she requested me on Facebook the day after. The only thing I am worried about is competition. It was extremely clear that there are guys there who were pros with getting women to like them. If I am gonna have all of this competition, does that mean I am screwed? The girl I befriended seemed like she had much more fun with these "naturals" than she did with me. I don't want to be put in the friend zone. Is there any way to compete against the naturals to get the hottest girls? Any easy thing I can do? Keep in mind that my approach skills suck ass for now.


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I posted this earlier, it's what I've learnt about college game so far. You want to be THE MAN in college, not the pick up artist. I've (painfully) learnt in my years that if you have the mindset of a PUA in college ,it doesn't work. You're still a PUA, but act like a MAN first. This is what I posted on this forum, it may be worth a look to you guys.

this-is-what-ive-learnt-so-far-vt71047.html


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I posted this earlier, it's what I've learnt about college game so far. You want to be THE MAN in college, not the pick up artist. I've (painfully) learnt in my years that if you have the mindset of a PUA in college ,it doesn't work. You're still a PUA, but act like a MAN first. This is what I posted on this forum, it may be worth a look to you guys.

this-is-what-ive-learnt-so-far-vt71047.html
Thanks for this info. I'm sorry if I skipped right through it or forgot to check it out but now I have and it has been really helpful but I still have comments and a question or two for you

1. You said nobody really cares as much as you think you have convinced me to believe that's completely true. I come from a high school where everyone made a big deal about everything. If I ever tried to talk to a girl and failed, everyone would know within seconds. It's gotta be different in college. But what about being associated with other people? Let's say I sometimes hung out with a group of guys that other girls did not like at all based on their interests, habits or appearances. Would that be completely bad?

2. I think you are right when you say people do mostly live boring lives. At orientation, most people had trouble coming up with a fun fact about themselves. This came easy for me and now that you say it, I believe you. It is up to me to make their lives more exciting.

3. I've heard about assuming rapport from many other people and I should definitely use it. Thanks for reminding me of it.

4. That is why we are all here. To take action. I can't sit and wait. I would go crazy. I just have to keep meeting people until I find female friends who are great inside and out. Once I have them, I can't stop from making too many friends.

5. This sometimes can be tough because I have a short attention span. I often find myself bored or pretending to be interested when someone is talking to me. I gotta stop this and really put my best effort forth. Maybe this will allow me to make conversations longer.

My question is this: What did you do about competition? There are clearly many guys that are so much better with women than me. I am usually not a funny person and don't really tease or kino escalate correctly which is what all these guys somehow know how to do. How do I stand out from the crowd and make women choose me over them? What is the best quality to have in this case where I am being cock blocked by them (it would be considered AMOGing but I am not an AMOG as of yet)


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You're welcome, I'm glad this forum allows such communication. Your questions amaze and intrigue me because they're the exact ones I used to ask myself! It goes on to show that none of our problems are 'unique' and most probably have a generalized, rather than personalized, solution to them.

1)"It's gotta be different in college." It is. There are usually thousands of students in college, with a 150 different majors binding them together. They say in a mid-size college there are usually 3 degrees of separation between you and the next person. A country like the USA (Canada probably 4) in it's totality has a 5 degree separation, so knowing everybody in college is a pretty hard task(do you think you're the center of the world, and everybody knows of everyone you hang out with? NO!). Which brings me to the next point, your association with a group is only as much as you want it to be. Firstly, your confidence levels shouldn't change depending on who you hang out with. It should be the same regardless of who's in front of you. This is self-esteem.

Secondly, you have to learn how to not give a fuck. I do not want to tell you to 'change your group' because that's easier said than done, I know. Not giving a fuck means chilling with these guys and acting like these are the best guys in the world..then acting the same way with another group of people altogether. A little snippet: I read in either Askmen/Menshealth about a Cosmopolitan study which said that over 70% women responded positively about how one man may appear to stand out in a group through his body language and confidence. They also say that confidence reeks. Make sure you have your cologne on to amplify it!

Finally, it is also a law in the style of Don Juan and Casanova, that while one may have hundreds of friends, the pact is broken when a man joins a group.

2)True that.

3) Welcome.

4) The only thing you must avoid is over-dependence on 'techniques'. Be natural. Learn how to be natural and you will get any woman you desire.

5) Two things here. You may be thinking too much, and trying to think of ways to hold on to the conversation. Don't think too much when you speak (for casual conversations-like approaches, not court judgments!), because thinking breaks your natural pattern in the conversation - and also causes awkward eye contact (if you think of her boobs haha). Be in the moment. Don't think "Oh what will he/she think if I say this?". Just say it. 99.9% of the time it will be something they simply laugh about, nod to, or give back a little snippet. You HAVE to be present in the moment; this is the key to pick up, court judgments, stand up comedy, acting, doing your essays, big physics problems, and anything between the salt and the sea. Ever notice how you have a big assignment due, and you sit down to do it, and it is only when you indulge into the moment, the work, you finally get the work done? Social life is the same. Be in the moment!

6) Are you serious dude? Firstly, stop thinking of techniques. Do what feels right in the moment. Don't think of escalating through kino before doing it, because you'll probably start thinking of sex the moment you touch her and get awkward. Touch her to reassure your/her comments, touch her back while she goes through a door, give her a slap on the arm if she's being funny. Trust me, if you stop thinking so much you will do what is right in the moment.

And I cannot believe you think you're being cock blocked by everyone! You simply choose your target and forget about everyone else. You will never know who your competition is till you approach her. You will not stand out from the crowd if you keep standing in the crowd. Good success comes from good action, not from good positions. There are probably only a handful of guys great with women in your college, and another handful of jocks who get a lot of sex easily. These two groups of guys probably get 25% of the girls (There's a whole 75% of the pie for you and whoever in your college decides to get good with women). You want to be a part of the rare first group of people, and the only way you can stand out is by doing something, like approaching the girl or naturally escalating. You know, you're only one step away from success.

The first time you have success with a girl (and when you choose the girl, not vice versa), you will automatically graduate and the next one will get waayyyy easier. Waaayyyyy.

So take that first step, stop thinking so much, focus on your own life and desires. Success will come.


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Also, welcome to Physics. That is what I studied in undergrad too. Nothing more interesting than Thermofluids and light bending invisible cloaks.


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Also, welcome to Physics. That is what I studied in undergrad too. Nothing more interesting than Thermofluids and light bending invisible cloaks.
My major is actually Broadcasting. When did I ever say it was Physics? I am taking a physics course this semester but only to fill a requirement. I'm usually very bad with science and math except psychology which is exactly what everyone on these forums is learning.


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You're welcome, I'm glad this forum allows such communication. Your questions amaze and intrigue me because they're the exact ones I used to ask myself! It goes on to show that none of our problems are 'unique' and most probably have a generalized, rather than personalized, solution to them.

1)"It's gotta be different in college." It is. There are usually thousands of students in college, with a 150 different majors binding them together. They say in a mid-size college there are usually 3 degrees of separation between you and the next person. A country like the USA (Canada probably 4) in it's totality has a 5 degree separation, so knowing everybody in college is a pretty hard task(do you think you're the center of the world, and everybody knows of everyone you hang out with? NO!). Which brings me to the next point, your association with a group is only as much as you want it to be. Firstly, your confidence levels shouldn't change depending on who you hang out with. It should be the same regardless of who's in front of you. This is self-esteem.

Secondly, you have to learn how to not give a fuck. I do not want to tell you to 'change your group' because that's easier said than done, I know. Not giving a fuck means chilling with these guys and acting like these are the best guys in the world..then acting the same way with another group of people altogether. A little snippet: I read in either Askmen/Menshealth about a Cosmopolitan study which said that over 70% women responded positively about how one man may appear to stand out in a group through his body language and confidence. They also say that confidence reeks. Make sure you have your cologne on to amplify it!

Finally, it is also a law in the style of Don Juan and Casanova, that while one may have hundreds of friends, the pact is broken when a man joins a group.

2)True that.

3) Welcome.

4) The only thing you must avoid is over-dependence on 'techniques'. Be natural. Learn how to be natural and you will get any woman you desire.

5) Two things here. You may be thinking too much, and trying to think of ways to hold on to the conversation. Don't think too much when you speak (for casual conversations-like approaches, not court judgments!), because thinking breaks your natural pattern in the conversation - and also causes awkward eye contact (if you think of her boobs haha). Be in the moment. Don't think "Oh what will he/she think if I say this?". Just say it. 99.9% of the time it will be something they simply laugh about, nod to, or give back a little snippet. You HAVE to be present in the moment; this is the key to pick up, court judgments, stand up comedy, acting, doing your essays, big physics problems, and anything between the salt and the sea. Ever notice how you have a big assignment due, and you sit down to do it, and it is only when you indulge into the moment, the work, you finally get the work done? Social life is the same. Be in the moment!

6) Are you serious dude? Firstly, stop thinking of techniques. Do what feels right in the moment. Don't think of escalating through kino before doing it, because you'll probably start thinking of sex the moment you touch her and get awkward. Touch her to reassure your/her comments, touch her back while she goes through a door, give her a slap on the arm if she's being funny. Trust me, if you stop thinking so much you will do what is right in the moment.

And I cannot believe you think you're being cock blocked by everyone! You simply choose your target and forget about everyone else. You will never know who your competition is till you approach her. You will not stand out from the crowd if you keep standing in the crowd. Good success comes from good action, not from good positions. There are probably only a handful of guys great with women in your college, and another handful of jocks who get a lot of sex easily. These two groups of guys probably get 25% of the girls (There's a whole 75% of the pie for you and whoever in your college decides to get good with women). You want to be a part of the rare first group of people, and the only way you can stand out is by doing something, like approaching the girl or naturally escalating. You know, you're only one step away from success.

The first time you have success with a girl (and when you choose the girl, not vice versa), you will automatically graduate and the next one will get waayyyy easier. Waaayyyyy.

So take that first step, stop thinking so much, focus on your own life and desires. Success will come.
I think you just totally opened my eyes and made me realize what "being in the moment" actually is. The example you gave just clicked. I know exactly what that means now and you are right. I want it to come natural and I probably do think too much during conversations. I gotta be in the moment but also remember to touch her at the right moments and install behaviors like that so that they come naturally. I just have to take serious action and success will come, probably sooner than I think if I start right away. You said that there is a whole 75% to tackle and that has gotta be where I will start but what if I do want the other 25%? Guess after a bit of experience, it will be possible. Also, what you said about standing out of the crowd is again genius. It makes me even more attractive if my body language and energy stand out from my friends. I'm not gonna deliberately choose people like that. I will make friends with whoever I like but if it happens, it happens.


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Like I said, success is only an hour away if you decide to do it right now. If you hit on 10 girls, you're bound to get a positive response from at least 1. It's a numbers game. Don't worry about 'whom you can hit on' and 'whom you cant'. There is no such thing. Learn to not give a fuck; sure I've embarrassed myself over some incidents but who gives a fuck?


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