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I've been getting a lot of flaky emails lately. A friend said I should escalate more because attraction is what was missing. So today I went out to try something new. Once I saw a girl I approached her, grabbed her by the waist like she was my girlfriend, held up a small mirror in front of us, and said "don't we look good together?". I've always been afriad to escalate like this so today I went out of my comfort zone, but It didn't go so well. Most of the girls I did it too backed off. One even said "don't ****ing touch me!". One found it funny. Another seemed OK with it, intrigue even but she didn't give me her number when I asked for it so I wasn't able to tell if she was attracted. The rest just backed off and seemed unpleasantly surprised by it. By the looks of it, I'd say I came on too strong.

Should I stop being so forward or should I keep it up at least until I get used to the escalation/physical thing?

I know, I suck as this.
Did you do this during the daytime??

And yes, it is coming off to strong.

It's called ESCALATING. It means start of somewhere and ESCALATE.

What you're doing is coming off creepy and weird and not escalating at all because you throw everything out in the open.


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Vizzy is spot on.

Don't do that mirror thing anymore.

You want to match your interest level roughly with hers. Implying that you see yourself in a relationship with her upon just meeting her + compounded by awkward waist kino before any escalation = not good.


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yes it was during the daytime in stores. I did it on a girl walking outside as well. If I knew it would be creepy and wierd I probably wouldn't have done it. I thought I would come off bold and cause immediate attraction. Truth is, I'm havng a hard time creating attraction with these girls so i thought I'd try this. I've gotten nothing but flaky emails like 5 times before this so I needed a different, more daring approach. I gotta say though, even though it didn't work, there's a glimmer of hope that I might get laid faster with this approach. After all, it IS bold... even if it may seem "creepy" or weird to some people. No?


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I'm pretty new to the game....but even I can tell that this is completely and utterly the wrong thing to do! If you actually thought that was ok then the reason you're probably getting flaky emails is probably because you're coming across to strong (i.e. desperate).

Kudos for the balls for doing it though!

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After reading that I get the feeling that approach anxiety is some thing you're not going to have to worry about in the future.When you approach a target you need to have slightly more energy than her and like the previous poster said ESCALATE to the level were your method can be introduced as a natural progression of things.

Consider;If a homeless person or panhandler approached you with the same method how would you feel?


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During day game the approach is more subtle and kino is used less than if it was club/bar game. Will you get laid faster with this particular approach on a women who likes this tactic? I was always taught the higher the risk the greater the reward but the more targets you need to approach. The question is are you willing to pass up on a ton of girls just to get to that receptive one? Your going to burn alot of possible targets.

What I like to do is to be receptive to the womens composure, tone of voice and eyes. For example if I approach a women who is very wide eye and still I will take that as sign that she is a little apprehensive. I will give her distance, not move often, raise my eyebrow and talk a little slower. In short I will make myself as unthreatening as possible.

If I approach a women who is animated, laughing, and uses alot of inclination in her voice I tend to be more playful, I kino, tease, and talk excitedly about things.

I think a general rule is to mirror a women.


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my friend stew does things like that and everybody i talk to or sometimes people i just hear talk agree he comes off as very creepy, you need to start off by displaying indicators of interest but subtle ones, then build thats why its called escalating and not tackling, its dating not rugby. i think you need to watch some videos on youtube and read some body language materials it will most definately help, i do admire your courage for trying a move like this, but in the future try to use your knowledge too :)

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hey thanks guys for the feedback. Really good stuff and supportive. And thanks for recognizing it took balls, cause I used to be shit scared to even think it. THis is the best forum I've come across when it comes to guinuine support and understanding... I was expecting to get burned and called an idiot creep for approaching women like that.

"Will you get laid faster with this particular approach on a women who likes this tactic? I was always taught the higher the risk the greater the reward but the more targets you need to approach..."

My thoughts xactly. I knew if I kept it up, I would get laid faster but it would have taken upseting a lot of women and probably gaining a rep for biggest douche so I think I'm gonna take it easy from now on...


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Theres a rule in boxing

your NEVER supposed to try to go strait for the knock out.

Why?

Because when you do that u focus on hitting the person hard instead of good technique and strategy n u probably get knocked out urself.

The same rule applies here.

The idea is to work the jab... Till she opens up for the big shots...

Pardon the anology...


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