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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:05 am 
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I've been seeing a girl for 3 months. She's independent, very smart and the first girl I've ever known with strong christian values (yeh I'm a heretic atheist but we get along great).

But she's also by herself in Rio for 4 weeks.

I'm not worried about what she's doing over there. However, she hasn't contacted me in the 5 days since she's left so I have no idea if she's even ok. The hostel she's staying at has internet access in the building itself so she could speak to me whenever.

I'm tempted to shoot her a three word email asking - 'Brazil, status quo?'

I don't want to come off as needy, since there's still a lot of stuff going on in our hometown - but I would like to know if she's at least safe. That, and the fact that I almost feel like it's rude not to contact each other.

Otherwise, I could go 4 weeks without contact, but surely that would mean attraction would be mutually gone by the time she returns.

My question is: Wait for a few more days, or email a short/terse email? No contact at all, or attempt some regular correspondence? This is a grey area because PUA principles dont' seem to cover situations like this (unless someone can point me in the direction of other sources?).


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:11 am 
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who usually sends the email first. if it were me id wait a couple more days and then email her whats going on with you like what you did this weekend but make sure you did something fun like surfing for the first time, bungee jumping, ect. but dont brag and im sure she'll fill you in on her vaca.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:16 am 
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Why didn't you call/text her the 1st night she got there?See if she arrived safe,how's the hotel.Or the 2nd night?
i mean come on 5 days ?
It's already a shitty situation,what you convey is : "i totally forgot about you,now that you've left" or "i wanna game you,so you become needy".
Tell her you've been super busy,and you miss her.NOW,not after 10 days


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Not disagreeing here, since this is a new situation for me but..

...I thought the etiquette would be for the girl overseas to email me?

I mean, she's the one having fun and doing new things. It seems counter-intuitive that I have to chase her with emails and texts when I'm at work/studying/going out.

I also made sure to call her 3 hours before she got on her plane. Didn't see the point in calling her as soon as she got there. She would have been tired and busy and in no mood to have me checking up on her constantly (at least that was my thinking).

Anyway, at the urgent behest of poet1234, I've texted her a short message asking how she was. That was about 12 hours ago and so far no reply.

Prince_ : why do you advocate waiting a couple more days?


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I agree with Poet.. Why wait so much ? ... I would've texted her or called her the next day. Ask if she got there safe, hows the hotel, wish her a good holiday etc...
In my opinion, you're playing it to much by "PUA Rules" ... but if you're dating her, its nice if you showed a little bit more interest than waiting 5 days.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:26 am 
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I waited because it seemed like the right thing to do. Not to mess with her head or game her.

If I were a girl on an overseas trip, the last thing I want is for my 'new guy back home' to be calling me everyday.

But I guess me giving her space could have misinterpreted by her as something else. Now it's been more than a week and still no call or text.

Is it even possible to maintain attraction without contact for 4 weeks? I'm guessing one's attraction might be evaporated by the time they get back.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:45 am 
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I thought the etiquette would be for the girl overseas to email me?
There is a bunch to read on this particular part of the forum about how not to use game in relationship,or how to use it at the right time.Take a look through posts,learn.
In a couple of words you are not calibrated by doing this,you're not being authentic by waiting so many days despite your wish to contact her.What you look for in a relationship is "to be yourself"(there is much to say here) rather than you using a pua persona.If you are acting pua in a relationships you are reacting,meaning you act a certain way to get a result.The person who is reacting more is of low value


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One email won't make you seem weak. But I do agree if you emailed her daily to check on her it would seem needy.
This might have been a test on her part. To see if you cared enough to email her. She might have been checking her email regularly the first few days to see what you would do, and now is too mad to contact you now.


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No Kalel, the others are right. This is a situation where you're suppposed to contact her the day she arrives, even a txt or email would have done.

Cagewalker, you fell into one of the typical pua caveats. What you did was wrong, unequivocally. Firstly, as the male, you are the initiator, and sometimes this means you'll send the most messages / make the most calls. A girl waits for you to call. Secondly, when an important even happens, yes you contact them to see how it went, I.e. A flight you see if she landed. Thirdly, when you're in the comfort buoding phase, there is naturally more calling / talking.

She would have arrived, checked her email over the next few days, and wondered wh you hadn't contacted her. Now she's thinking you've gone straight back to picking up, most likely. I've made this mistake twice - first timeit killed the mood of nearly our entire emails for the duration of her trip when I finally made contact. 2nd time wih another girl, given that we'd only known each other for half a week, she pinned me as a player and left me for another guy.

You've know her for 3 months. You have a lot of explaining to do.


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Well. In my circle we have habit that the one who travels after reaching target place notifies family/friends that travel was lucky, nice, successful and he/she reached hotel or whatever was planned.


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Well. In my circle we have habit that the one who travels after reaching target place notifies family/friends that travel was lucky, nice, successful and he/she reached hotel or whatever was planned.
This was my thinking at the time, yes. I called her several hours before she left to see her off.

She has since emailed me a very short email. Almost no words about what's she been upto. But she did send me a photo she took of street art that said 'Noah' (Noah is my name).

I've never been in a situation where a newish girl is overseas and as you can tell, am treading very rough waters here. Any advice would be much appreciated.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:29 pm 
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No Kalel, the others are right. This is a situation where you're suppposed to contact her the day she arrives, even a txt or email would have done.

Cagewalker, you fell into one of the typical pua caveats. What you did was wrong, unequivocally. Firstly, as the male, you are the initiator, and sometimes this means you'll send the most messages / make the most calls. A girl waits for you to call. Secondly, when an important even happens, yes you contact them to see how it went, I.e. A flight you see if she landed. Thirdly, when you're in the comfort buoding phase, there is naturally more calling / talking.

She would have arrived, checked her email over the next few days, and wondered wh you hadn't contacted her. Now she's thinking you've gone straight back to picking up, most likely. I've made this mistake twice - first timeit killed the mood of nearly our entire emails for the duration of her trip when I finally made contact. 2nd time wih another girl, given that we'd only known each other for half a week, she pinned me as a player and left me for another guy.

You've know her for 3 months. You have a lot of explaining to do.
Do you mind if I ask how those relationships ended up?

Four weeks seems like a long time and I don't know how she will be when she returns. Most things I've read seem to suggest that attraction for guys is like a trigger switch and as long as she looks the same, we'll be attracted - however, girls will need to be regamed and put back into a state of emotions/attraction.

Did you find this to be the case?


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2nd time wih another girl, given that we'd only known each other for half a week, she pinned me as a player and left me for another guy.
Conker, I'm curious about this 2nd girl as I'm in a very similar situation. in this case I would think being so early in the relationship (if you can even call it that) means you should avoid appearing needy and are certainly not obligated to contact her.


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Why do people always wait for the GF to act? Are we so insecure that we need to let her do the first step first, cause we are not sure its the right thing to do?

We are letting the girls rule and lead the relationship in this way.. And we need to be the leaders..


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Bimm3er has a point here.
We're supposed to be the leading role in the relationship. As a male you're expected (by the girl) to initiate conversation. Yes, you'll have to initiate texting, calling her, asking her out. As males we are expected to do this. And she wants you to do it, she is expecting you to call her to see how she went.
You're thinking too much about game, and keeping her attraction. Normally, at 3 months, its not only attraction driving her to be with you. She feels something more than attraction.
This is a relationship and to be honest, I would't ask in a PUA forum, since most people would tell you PUA terms and things to do. Which in a relationship you should act like you feel... Of course not being needy... One email once a week isn't being needy..
"Hey hows your vacation going ?!"
She would even feel nice that you're caring for her, and remember her during her time out.


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