I've hung out with this girl a few times, and things have been moving slow. For one, shes a virgin and has barely done anything with a guy. In fact she was in a 2 month relationship with a guy who's only gotten what I've gotten in a few dates. I've been being patient, and she says that she's fine with touching through clothes and stuff, but hasnt been fingered or anything. So anyways here it is:

HB8:

My parents are in Jamaica so I invite her over for movies/party/sleepover. We come back from the party and she's laying with me. I realized things have been moving very slowly and I know if I dont escalade nothing will happen. So I do. I stick my hands down her pants but she stops me and says only though my panties. So I start rubbing her clit through her pants. I move my hands underneath but she pulls away. So I decide to freeze out. I say goodnight and roll over. She says 'fine' and we lay there for a few minutes in silence. What I decide to do, (which i felt I didnt have much of a choice in doing) was talking bout it. And whats shes comfortable doing. I had success last week escalading fingering into sex by fingering and whispering in her ear to fuck. THAT WORKED. Not with this girl. Not moving very fast at all. She said 'next time.. maybe.' So hear's hoping for the best. The freeze out didnt seem to effective. Mustve been too horny to hold out for so long. Who knows. I know this sounds like a sticking point and I would appreciate advice but this is telling you that 'talking about it' didnt work very well. Didnt escalade further. Opinions?

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Logistically, this is a nightmare. She knows she's safe as long as she has some clothes on. You'll want to get her comfortable taking off everything but her panties. You go ahead and get totally naked, let her explore and get familiar so your body isn't as scary to her. Simulate sex, but don't penetrate her. The idea is to just make the whole experience more familiar and less scary then she imagines. Have you given her an orgasm? If you can tell when she's about to cum, you can repeatedly bring her to the brink until she's half out her mind and willing to try the next step. You can try oral through her panties to get her there, maybe tell her you can do better with them off. She is giving you all the tools you need to succeed here.

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31 and still figuring it out.

1-if ur going to freeze her out it has to be for more than a couple minutes.

2- if a girl is not down with something don't talk about it unless you are really close to this girl. like have been hooking up for a long ass fuckin time.

3- to not be negative nancy u did do a good job on freezing her out for a couple minutes though. im usually too horny to give a fuck and will get what i can get. ha

4- my opinion with this to advance is pull a privacy card on her. somehow get the message over to her that you have a very private life and don't like telling people anything you do sexually with girls then make up a couple other things you don't like telling people. this is how you get with a mormon chick btw... every chick is down its just how good your game is to get down. so basically what i am saying is to make HER believe that you have a private life and that you don't disclose certain things even to your best friends. while doing this though kino her... not on her privates though.

good luck, just my 2 cents

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Yeah I took off all of my clothes except my boxers and I took off hers. I was making her cum and shed stop everytime she was about to climax. Like its fucked up. I agree I shouldve had a longer freeze out but I dont think it really matters with this girl. I think she would just go back to sleep anyways. She doesnt do anything like third base (touching beneath clothing) which isnt really my third base but thats how she see's it. I grabbed her hand and let her touch my cock up and down through my boxers. She seemed to like that because she whispered in my ear that its really big. I shouldnt have really talked about it either but I mean, last resort almost. I'll try again tonight and see what my results are. I told her already that I dont boost about getting girls. She said she likes that. So who knows what the problem is. I'm not thinking its my lack of game, I think its the fact that its her comfort zone, and I just have to find a way to make her more comfortable like you said. Thanks for the advice boys, I will keep on trying !

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