So I'm new to this forum... Hi everybody, I'm plus. Wow, I feel better now. So,
I have a question (imagine that) about following up on an encounter I had with a knock-out the other day.

I work for a cleaning company and drive a work truck. I get enough chances to approach girls while I'm out working... At gas stations, shops, cafes, restaurants, malls, etc.

So on this particular day I was pulling out of Starbucks, in between jobs, I was driving, other dude in the passenger seat. And this 9 walked by all dressed in Buisiness attire... very stunning.. Kinda looked like a cross between Elaine from Seinfeld and Penelope Cruz.?" She was walking into Starbucks with another guy, looked like it might be her boyfriend, or boss. The looked like they were on their lunch break.

Despite the guy she was with, I said hi to her with a smile as we drove by and she shouted hi back with a big smile and walked up to the car, leaving the guy behind at the Starbucks entrance. He went inside as she stepped up to my window. I did not expect this. Usually, women roll their eyes at me and walk away in these situations, especially sophisticated knockouts like this.

We introduced ourselves and I shook her hand. I held on for about 10 seconds as she spoke with a smile... and I squeezed her hand tighter the last 5 seconds. During this flirtatious handshake, she was looking into my eyes smiling as she spoke. By the expression on her face I could tell that she was slightly taken aback with my forwardness, yet at the same time she was also very direct. I continued to hold her hand and squeeze ever so tighter. She slightly squeezed back and did not let go.

Now before I get past the handshake, I must tell you brothers, it was a brutal 100 degrees out that day and I had my shirt off which she could plainly see. This did not seem to bother her. (I do have a fairly muscular body and righteous tan). So I felt her approval about my appearance and my behavior during the handshake. Then I let go of her hand as she continued talking.

"Hey I think you guys do the cleaning at our offices. We are a Payroll company"
Irony enters the story and never before has Irony been such a friend to me. Turns out we do the cleaning there. She went on.
" Hey are you guys looking for someone to do your payroll"
My coworker giggles next to me and informs us that her company does indeed to our payroll. Irony lends yet another hand in this game.
Then she charismatically said with a smile,
" That is so wild. I'm new to this area and just transfered to the offices in town here. Do you guys know any businesses or owners that might be looking to get their payroll done?"
"What, I just met you and you're already trying to sell me on something?" I said with a chuckle. She laughed.
" I figured you might know since you work with a lot of businesses," She said.
I thought this was a good chance for me to ask for her number.
"We should go out and we can talk more about it. Let me get your number," I said.
" Ok, or maybe I should get your card, my boss is standing right there in Starbucks watching, I could get in trouble." She appeared to be nervous.
" Oh, ok I will hold my phone down as I type it in. I don't want to get you in trouble" I said. "ok, so whats that number again"

She gave me her number. It was like clockwork. I could not believe it. Actually, I was blocking up the parkinglot with my big van while talking to her, and I expected her to get uncomfartable and bolt, but she continued talking to me. There were three cars full of dazed drivers who surprisingly did not honk their horns. I said that I should go because I don't want to get her in trouble and that I would call her.

So, I called her two days later. Left a message. She called me back the next day We talked for a little while. She asked me about my work, and where I live, and how well I knew the area (which I don't know that well because I just moved here 2 years ago. She then started asking me about Payroll again, briefly, casually, I jokingly told her she is just trying to use me to help get her clients for work. And by the way, I know absolutely no one that needs their payroll done and I had already told her that in our very first encounter. So then she said she would like to hang out and get some coffee with me. I was like "ok yea."
But then she said with a smile, "But as long as we can talk about payroll..."
I was like "WHAAAATTTT" and she's like "Well not just payroll..." and laughed. We casually agreed to meet in two days.

I sense there is some kind of mutual attraction (perhaps I am more attracted then her, but I can tell she does like me because she wasn't like all saleswoman with me. She squeezed my hand and smiled at me. It was almost like she was using that whole payroll bit as an excuse to talk to me... but I'm not sure. I have a slight concern that she is actually serious about this payroll shit. And over coffee... I respect what the woman does for work, but I wanna get her off the payroll topic on onto the topic of attraction and bed.

So, what shall I do? What steps should I take when I meet her for coffee? This was her idea to meet for coffee. I would had much rather gone to a bar with her, or a hotel, but I didn't want to blow it by suggesting that. So how should I handle this? how can I get her away from the cafe, into the bar or better yet the bed? What actions can I take to get her off this payroll shit and into more desirable subjects. And how can I be sure I'm not just waisting my time and that she really is interested in something more then just trying to make me one of her clients? And even if she is, how do I steer that in a different direction with this coffee date? How do I direct this?

Yo, I'm about your age here, which I think might be rare. This girl is weird, no doubt. Who goes up to a van with two shirtless guys in it when they shout Hi to you? I get exactly the same impression you do, that she's using payroll as an excuse to talk, but also that she might be into networking. Either way, coffee is an excellent date. What you will do is make sure it is a date and not a business meeting. You will do this by making the conversation personal and not PC. Ask if she's single, neg her if she brings up payroll; you've been doing pretty good at that so far, but you might have to get a little more mean for her to get the hint. I went on a date with a girl that recently moved to this area and all she talked about was her job because that's all she had going on. She was dull as shit and impervious to fun topics like exes, what you do on your free time, sexual jokes to segue into sexually charged convo. I lost all interest, and this might happen to you.

If she goes on and on about her job, which sounds boring as hell already, start ending questions with "... other than your job?" Or start questions with "Outside of work..." She sounds a little kooky, you might not even want her after she blows this coffee date. Focus on that first instead of worrying how to get her to the next place. Also, she's new in town and might be a little lonely (also might just want a friend outside work). You have an advantage in that you know places in town she's never been to, which will be an excellent set up to another date.

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31 and still figuring it out.

Minsok,

cool name by the way. This is excellent advice. I think the negging is what has kept me afloat so far with this one.
Yea, she might be kooky... we'll see. This is great advice and a confidence booster to look at it as she might be totally boring and not what I'm interested in after all.

I will definitely use the "so other then your job" and "outside of work" quote. It sounds pretty simple... which is what it seems usually works with most women... simplicity. I need to remember this and not get too complex or attached.

Only one thing, I don't know much about this town since I moved here not too long ago, but maybe more then her enough to improvise... so I think I can manage getting her to some other places rather then a cafe.

Thanks again and I will let you know how it goes.

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