Ok so lets start by saying i have facebook and im 17, im trying to find a website to sarge online game before i move properly to facebook

Which would be the best ones?

I use Plentyoffish.com
mind you, you're supposed to be 18 to use POF... but still its good place to practice.

To be honest, i am not a big fan of so called dating websites, sites like adult freind finder, are a complete scam, the preportions are like: 30% female 70%men and the females which are their are either ugly, fake (28%) and maby a couple of real once (2%)... The reason i say this is generally if a girl is hot, she gets hit on allot, so do you really think mrs hb9-10 who gets hit on walking down the street, clubbing, other, really needs a dating website to get laid well ofcource not.....

As such you Should get a far better result on facebook (e.g. hotter girls!), i am currently gaming 3 models on fb, who certainly are not on dating websites...

Hmm true jtaz,

Cheers for the input guys

Um dude adult friend finder is not a dating site. Its a freaking site for those that want to find people to hook up with. Sites like Plenty of Fish, OkCupid, Match, etc ARE dating sites. As far as social websites goes, girls there are not looking to meet up with strangers they talked to on the net. Not saying you can't pick up girls on social websites, but more that girls there have a different mind set than those on a dating site when it comes to meeting up.

Look AFF is still technically a dating website, designed mostly for casual hook ups, just like that black book site, which advertises everywhere, but the preportion of real women on these sites is very low, Your claim about it not being a dating website is based purely on diffence of opinion and has no factual basis. Yes POF,OkCupid are traditional dating websites, and i am not saying people will not get results, because you can get results, i was just putting out some food for thought, if a hot girl gets hit on all the time does she need a dating website ? ofcource the answer to that question wil generally give you a no, and yes girls on social networking sites do have a diffrent mindset but it is my opinion their is more choice on social networks (they have more members after all so it is inevitable) and it is my opinion their will be better girls on social networks .. You can certainly get girls on social networks to meet up with you just have to be a bit more casual and spend more time chatting to the girl.

I am not the only one who believed the above. It is my opinion that payed dating websites (Aff, that black book site specifically) are a waste of money, becuase as discuessed above the preportion of real women is low, you can however get results on POF,OkCupid and some traditional dating sites. Aff ect even fake messages from girls, and i know this for a fact, before i heard about game i was registered on various free dating sites, they sent me messages saying xyz girl had messaged me and i would have to pay to read the message, oviously i didnt fall for this, but it is a legal scam (maby not so legal.... but still they do it!) i tried gumtree dating ect, out of thousands of girls i messaged who where looking for casual on gumtree dating i had only 1 reply from a real women the rest where from people who had setup auto messaging trying to get money from people buying aff, black book, ect from their membership links, some didnt reply so maby they where real but the majority where auto messages, the reason i only got one reply from a real girl may have been because i didnt send particulaly good messages becuase this was before i had learnt pua stuff so i sent pretty afc messages but you can be the judge, i will re-try pof, ect again when i get time to provide a direct comparison, between social sites and these sites... but for now due to the preportion of real women and what i have seen so far on social sites i believe they are better.

Now i have knowlege of game i regularly get replies from models and hot girls on social sites, i am not bragging and i not a good looking guy..

This message is very long but i hope you understand my perspective of online dating websites.

Adult Friend Finder is NOT a dating website. It is considered a swingers personals community website. You may say that it's a kind of dating site, but then you'd also be wrong.

OKCupid and PoF are free dating sites.

Match, eHarmony and some others are pay sites.

If you want to look at a dating site, I'd definitely recommend OKCupid.

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It doesnt really matter, it is the same type thing, just a diffrent wording..
i agree If you are looking for a dating site,PoF & OKCupid are probably your best bet. my point only was that social sites, also yeild results and girls who get hit on allot are likely not on dating sites and to watch out for sites like aff, ect, becuase dating sites/spc are a mine field.. ..

Alot of dating sites are full of single mothers and divorcees, ie. the older crowd who typically don't want to go clubbing and are not as confident in having guys pick the up and drop them as soon as they hear the word "my kids" or "my ex" so keep that in mind its them, the fake ones and the fat-n-ugly ones.

The hookup sites adult friend finder and all the rest are mostly scams.

Go with a free one like pof im thinking of going on their myself.

I haven't heard of OKcupid until i read this thread earlier, so I decided to check it out. Making your profile takes some time but i think that is because the site is directed to people seeking long(er) term relationships. That's just my opinion though.

How is a hook up site a dating site? AFF tag line by the way is: "The World's Largest Sex & Swinger Personals Community". Nothing about dating there. But I guess what we consider a dating site does differ.

I am not saying gaming on social websites doesn't work. But just because a hot girl gets hit on all the time does not mean she would have no use for a dating site that is not along the lines of AFF. There are loads of hot girls in my area on POF. Many are there because they want to expand on their pool of guys. Remember girls tend to not approach guys so they are pretty much limited to picking what guys approach them. By going on dating sites they get more exposure in meeting other guys. And in an area where I live where there are millions of people online dating can be of use. As the more exposure a girl gets the more guys hit on her and the more of a choice she has.
Your problem is that you went for the adult "dating" sites thinking there will be loads of girls there. Loads of guys have made the same mistakes you have as many guys still don't seem to know all adult "dating" sites are scams and the number of real females on these sites are low and the females that do sign up rarely stay at these sites due to the type of messages they get from guys. Paid sites like Match.com are loads better as they are not focus adult "dating" but on actual dating. But when you do have the chance to check out at least the free dating sites like POF. As even tho men do out number women on dating sites there is a lot higher female population on sites like POF than a site like AFF.

To give you a sense to how many girls there are on POF I did a search for girls that where at least 5'10" within 25 miles from me and are only looking to date and did not do drugs or smoke with no kids. I got back 334 results and 135 of those profiles are active on the site. I am not saying there are more girls on dating sites than social webtsites as I have no doubt there are more girls on social websites. But I am more merely pointing out that POF has a healthy active population of girls on its site.
I certainly see where you are coming from as well as understand where you are coming from. As when I first started the online dating thing I ran into those adult "dating" sites and was trick into them. But I am since learned to stay away from them.