Girls who lead a lifestyle of sleeping with multiple partners a week, IMO, have self esteem issues because that is just a lack of self respect. It is slutty, it's not subjective. Sleeping with four guys over the course of seven days is a slutty thing to do..

there is 100% open about you as you are now, and 100% open, going to tell you every single detail of their life. after you get the number, what's next, you want length/girth measurements of each guy? want to know how long they lasted? whether or not they went down on her? then we could move onto all the other personal stuff that's better left behind, like how many times she's pee'd her pants in public, all this would be "getting to know her" in your sense of the term. but really doesn't do anything for a relationship, considering your not dating the 15 year old girl that got drunk and pee'd herself, or the 19 year old girl that had a different sex partner every week, your dating the girl NOW. the emotions, mindset, and place in life are different to they were now, so any of those past behaviours mean squat about who she is now.

i'd be asking myself, if i were you, WHY knowing the number of guys she's been with is that important?

Why would I be asking myself that? It's not important, and I know that. I don't even care about the number of guys a girl has slept with. All I said was that "If I want to know the information should be available to me". Dude, you obviously have issues about this issue if you are so STRONGLY trying to prove your point.

my issue stems from the whole "if i want to know, i should be able to know" mentality. it's a relationship, not an inquisition by the FBI, everyone should be given some privacy, if the information they keep private isn't in any way detrimental to the other person in the relationship.

odd that you've got your back up about justifying needing to know, yet haven't put forward one good reason FOR knowing.

Why does it matter?

because the only reason i can see for a guy "needing" to know is weak inner game/insecurity, and i'm all about trying to get people to overcome their deep seated issues.

I've been there, and asking that question keeps feeding the insecurity. only way to break the habit is realise the real reason your asking...

Why does it matter?

because the only reason i can see for a guy "needing" to know is weak inner game/insecurity, and i'm all about trying to get people to overcome their deep seated issues.

I've been there, and asking that question keeps feeding the insecurity. only way to break the habit is realise the real reason your asking...

In quoting the great PUA Ice Cube: "You can't turn a ho into a housewife"....but if you aren't looking for a housewife, then just enjoy the ho..