What do you guys think of this one (assumes you asked a question in your last message): "Are you still thinking? Geez, they aren't THAT tough, and I thought you were supposed to be the brainy type."

Too much, or just right?

i'd use it

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Yeah, I could assume that a girl dropping off in mid conversation is a sign that she's avoiding me, but that doesn't really sound confident; particularly if I haven't given a girl any reason to avoid me. I like to be bull headed and assume the best when it comes to attraction until I run into a clear indication of disinterest or just run out of effort for a girl.

AychQ, that's really close to what I want, thanks. It's not so negative that the girl just won't respond and it still calls her out. It's a little too much, but it would be easy to calibrate depending on the girl.

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I used this text in a SMS to several slow unresponsive girls today. It may work as an email too.

"Have you ever wondered what it would be like to" And thats it! . A few actually text back with NO reference to the sms and others have , of course asked - "Wondered about what?" 6 out of 6 responses - not bad. To the people thinking - what do I reply if she asks that question - Don't answer it! Talk about something else - they won't even remember it a text later

How's it a little too much? maybe if the girl is a HB -4 and has no form of ego...

but if she was, she wouldn't ignore messages.

It's not a sign of inconfidence to assume she's avoiding you, more a sign of knowing the way a girls mind works. i'm not saying to next her over it, but realise it may be a sign buying temperature isn't right.

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I throw this out if there's no response in a week or so "Looks like you're putting a lot of thought into your response. I hope you're not worried about trying to impress me." Testing it now. Thoughts?

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You are coming off as really needy. I usually send out dozens of messages a day to dozens of different girls. I use a specific format to my emails and I get such a high response rate that I don't care if a specific girl won't respond. Here is my basic format for an opener:

1. Over-the-top playful or cocky humor (depending on her age)

2. A good cold-read

3. An open-ended Question


Here is an example of one I have used for a GREAT response rate (note that this is cocky humor, so it is better for girls over 23 years old):

I know most guys write you messages saying stuff like, “Wassup sexi? That niiice ass b fiiiine and id tap dat…my digits are xxx-xxx-xxxx…holla bac atya boyyeee…” or “Hey, I’m a nice guy, and you are SOOO beautiful. I would do anything in the world to be you boyfriend. I would put you on a pedestal and shower you with gifts and dinner and give you everything you want. Please, I hope you like me and would at least give me a chance.” But we both know you are attractive and guys only send you a message to try to get with you… Here’s my question: What do you have other than your looks that makes you an interesting enough person to want to meet?

Funny thing is a week later I might have a different opener that I am spamming to all the hot girls that a girl that didn't respond before likes and responds to. It rarely comes up that I emailed her before without a response. Use this format and this should help for now. I also have a good format to use for Reopening if necessary.

Hope this helps,

The Web Womanizer

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It doesn't work. That's a form letter. I don't go for teenagers and a majority of the girls in my area, that I find attractive, go to college and are too smart for that. Copy and paste DOES NOT WORK HERE. I know from experience.

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If it's a good cold read, no woman will think it's a form letter, after all, how would a form letter know so MUCH about her as a person

Women don't care what they "know" if you make them FEEL

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Dude. As I said, I have TRIED this. It doesn't mention any specifics about her, that's how she knows it's BS. It doesn't work on my demographic 20-26. Don't you think if all you had to is copy and paste something to every girl on a dating site to get her interest, someone would have made a topic about it and it would be VERY popular? Try shit out, just because it sounds good doesn't mean it works.

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Minsok, I personally have emailed hundreds of different girls. I'll be quite honest. If you put in a warm read (i.e. read her profile first and write something about that) you will get a higher response rate compared to a "universal" opener. HOWEVER, I will email dozens of girls in an hour through copy and pasting, and I will get about a 10-30% response rate. Now, I will admit the response rate is NOT impressive. BUT, because of the way I structure my emails and follow-up emails I get about 80% of the girls that reply as REAL-LIFE DATES. Now, I agree it doesn't say anything ABOUT her, and that is why many choose not to respond. However, since most get bombarded with emails like "Hey, what's up?" or "Hey beautiful" (and THEY DO. I know this because I created a fake hot girl profile) you will still stick out and intrigue her to some extent.

Here are a few more openers I have used to get DATES that follow the same principles:

I know what you are thinking... Not another email by some random guy that just wants to get in my pants... Ughh... I feel that way all of the time. I get a bunch of women named Jessica, Ashley, and/or Lauren asking me how big my "ferret" is all the time. Geez. The lame-o's are SO annoying. By the way, you seem interesting... What's your story?

I know what you are thinking… Not another email by a random Craig, Jim, Bob, or Tom wanting to know “Wassup sexi thang?” HA, I get girls adding me all of the time inquiring about what’s included in my $5000 rate…lame… Interestingly enough, I came across your profile by accident and thought you seemed cool enough to write. What do you have other than your looks that makes you an interesting person to talk to?

So every time I log into this site I have to deal with a bunch of lame-o's taking my profile seriously, either trying to beg me for sex, or thinking I am the spawn of Satan for writing such a dastardly thing. But after reading your profile I can tell you probably have the sense of humor to get the finer parts of my creative wit. Other than your sense of humor, what do you think is your best quality?


See, they are share the same qualities. Also, you don't HAVE to be cocky or talk about what other guys say. You could use some playful childish humor and mix it up with a cold-read about how you know that there is a playful inner-child inside of her that is ready to just run out and play (or whatever). One of my students does this and he has been getting at least 15 girls a day to respond to him.

Also, this is all a part of a bigger system. The opener is only a part of what will attract women and get you dates with them. But don't take my word for it. Try it out yourself. The proof is in the pudding.

I hope this helps,

The Web Womanizer

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Thanks for being honest about the 10-30% response rate; that's about what I figured. I screen for maybe the best 15% on a site and I get a 50% response rate and maybe 60% of those are willing to meet in person (of those only about 50% are worthwhile). I'm pretty good at cold-reading, but I haven't been putting it in the first message, so that will be worthwhile trying.

Back on topic, I tried, "Looks like you're putting a lot of thought into your response. I hope you're not worried about trying to impress me," on the six girls that didn't respond to my first message. One replied so far, but it was lame and basically said, "I meant to write you, but forgot." It's only been two days, though.

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I was going to hold on to this for a while. But fuck it. I'll give this away too. Here is something I recently developed to "reopen" girls. I generally just let girls go (because I get enough dates) but I will use this for girls I talked to but the conversation stopped. It works for girls who haven't responded too.

You need to include these things:

1. Say "Sent you email few days ago with no response"

You call out the elephant in the room.

2. Say "Not sure why"

You are insinuating that you are too valuable NOT to talk to

3. Make up some outrageous FUNNY reason why

Again with the insinuating value, plus is negs her a bit and is humorous

4. Hit them with a false disqualifier

Makes her feel like you are challenging her to earn your approval

5. Say "Since you are still on the site I know that you are still looking."

Called her out again.

6. Say "We should talk some more. At the very least you could make a great friend. "

Embedded command PLUS putting her in FRIEND zone (she will want to work her way out of that).

7. Hit them with another open-ended question

I ALWAYS recommend this in the opener AND following emails because it gets them thinking (seducing themselves) and I build DEEP rapport with them so they WANT to meet with me.

Here is an example of what I used that got me a high amount of responses and let to numbers/dates:

Subject:

A While Ago…

Body:

Hey, I sent you an email a while back and you didn’t respond. I’m not sure why, but it’s probably because a million guys named Ed and Jim who happened to be childhood friends with your Grandpa filled up your email inbox so much that you forgot to get back to me. You were so close to getting that gold star too… Since you are still on the site I know that you are still looking. We should talk some more. At the very least you could make a great friend. So what do you think is the lamest pickup line that you have ever heard?

Try to come up with your own in your own words with the principles that I outlined. It's imperative to UNDERSTAND why something works. That will allow you to unleash your full potential. A canned line will only take you so far and hurt EVERYONE because we will have to come up with something else.

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