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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:30 pm 
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I just came back from the mall and could unfortunately not open a set. I really did not see any attractive girls. All the good ones I saw were holding hands with other guys. Maybe today was a bad day or maybe my mind was blinding me, or maybe I was just in the wrong places at the wrong time. I am not considering my day a failure because I actually got out of the house and went to the mall alone and felt comfortable there. It is an important step but not a big one. I really could not find a great place in the mall to sarge. People are walking through the mall at a fast pace and it is hard to find a good store that both guys and good looking girls go to. I have openers, I just need to say them.

My question is what are good strategies for opening sets in malls? Where is the best places to do it and why? Any particular store I should go to if my mall has it? Should my openers be situational or could they just be anything like the My Little Pony opener (that is an opener where you ask the girl or girls if they can remember whether or not My Little Pony dolls had superpowers)? Any other good advice would also be helpful. Thanks for the help in advance.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:52 am 
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I would maybe start by asking for directions to a store or something cos that way it seems as though ur not goin around making a poll or taking a survey (which to me seems like it if u open with an opinion opener). I would ask for directions for some random store and then maybe go into a situational thread.

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The best way i have found is a familiararity opener.
Walk while 'talking on the phone'. Force the ioi's and then at the last second 'hang up', go to shake her hand and say "how have you been".
Bang! set open, and alot off the time she'll be scratching her head asking you where she knows you from the whole time.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:03 am 
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I find most of my HBs in the more fashionable type stores. Check out Guess, Armani Exchange, Forever 21, Victoria Secret, etc. I only pick up the ones looking at stuff in a store and taking their time.

My favorite way to approach is to just get eye contact and don't break... once I see an IOI, I'll neg with asking why is she shopping alone. If she doesn't notice me looking, I'll just open with a touch on the shoulder and since I'm in a tourist area, I just ask them about where to find the best "their ethnicity" food/etc.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:36 am 
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I suggest you go into stores to find women.
Most people who go to the mall are underage but stores will most likely have 18+ people.


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I suggest you go into stores to find women.
Most people who go to the mall are underage but stores will most likely have 18+ people.
I am underage. That's a good thing then.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:58 am 
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I love picking up in malls. I never thought I would stop a girl in a mall and start talking to her. But now I do.

Some things I've learnt:

- You're not always going to find GREAT sets. There's been times when I'd go into a mall and would only open like a few girls in an hour. Simply because there weren't many 8+ to me. Nightgame I'd basically open anything. But daygame, I really look for the VERY good looking girls, and I take the time to get to know them and see if their good looks are complimented with a good personality, if not: bye bye.

- You need to be alert. There'd be times when I wouldn't pay attention and attractive girls would walk past me, and I'd just notice them in the last second, but then it'd be too late. And I couldn't be fucked chasing them.

- Practice. I started practicing on store employees. I had major AA but little by little it went away.

- Don't stop. I made this mistake. I did day game consistently for about 2-3 months. In that time I got fairly good. Then I stopped for about 2-3 months. I thought to myself "I'll be able to pick up where I left off". Nope. It's almost as if everything I worked for was completely lost. Once you get steamed up, you just keep going.

- Get a wing or friend. Sometimes it can be a little daunting walking around a mall looking for a target. You're AA could really spike up especially if you spend like 20 minutes walking around looking for someone to open. In those 20 minutes alot could go through your mind and AA could become a potential issue. A wing or friend helps you get shit off your mind by keeping you company. Not only that, but your not in the mall for the specific purpose of "picking up". You're there with a friend and you're having fun. This is also useful if you tend to put yourself down if a set goes badly. A wing or friend would be there to cheer you up, make it look like it's not a big deal (which it isn't), and so on.

- Make eye contact. Smile. You can't really kino as much as you would in a nightgame. So you need to rely on non-verbal communication quite a bit. Heavy eye contact is very useful along with good body language.

- In one of the malls I go to it's split up, like people go in one direction, and on the other side people go in the opposite direction. What I do is, I go in the lane so I'm going against the shoppers. That means I'm walking TOWARDS people. If this is similar to your shopping mall, I suggest you do it. People won't always stick to the crowd, but more often than not it seems to happen. When walking TOWARDS people it's better because you have more time to see the girls, check her out, eye contact, smile, get her attention.

Hope those tips help you out.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:40 am 
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I love picking up in malls. I never thought I would stop a girl in a mall and start talking to her. But now I do.

Some things I've learnt:

- You're not always going to find GREAT sets. There's been times when I'd go into a mall and would only open like a few girls in an hour. Simply because there weren't many 8+ to me. Nightgame I'd basically open anything. But daygame, I really look for the VERY good looking girls, and I take the time to get to know them and see if their good looks are complimented with a good personality, if not: bye bye.

- You need to be alert. There'd be times when I wouldn't pay attention and attractive girls would walk past me, and I'd just notice them in the last second, but then it'd be too late. And I couldn't be fucked chasing them.

- Practice. I started practicing on store employees. I had major AA but little by little it went away.

- Don't stop. I made this mistake. I did day game consistently for about 2-3 months. In that time I got fairly good. Then I stopped for about 2-3 months. I thought to myself "I'll be able to pick up where I left off". Nope. It's almost as if everything I worked for was completely lost. Once you get steamed up, you just keep going.

- Get a wing or friend. Sometimes it can be a little daunting walking around a mall looking for a target. You're AA could really spike up especially if you spend like 20 minutes walking around looking for someone to open. In those 20 minutes alot could go through your mind and AA could become a potential issue. A wing or friend helps you get shit off your mind by keeping you company. Not only that, but your not in the mall for the specific purpose of "picking up". You're there with a friend and you're having fun. This is also useful if you tend to put yourself down if a set goes badly. A wing or friend would be there to cheer you up, make it look like it's not a big deal (which it isn't), and so on.

- Make eye contact. Smile. You can't really kino as much as you would in a nightgame. So you need to rely on non-verbal communication quite a bit. Heavy eye contact is very useful along with good body language.

- In one of the malls I go to it's split up, like people go in one direction, and on the other side people go in the opposite direction. What I do is, I go in the lane so I'm going against the shoppers. That means I'm walking TOWARDS people. If this is similar to your shopping mall, I suggest you do it. People won't always stick to the crowd, but more often than not it seems to happen. When walking TOWARDS people it's better because you have more time to see the girls, check her out, eye contact, smile, get her attention.

Hope those tips help you out.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of this. It means a lot to me. My mall does have two lanes as you described so I will definitely attempt to walk towards the people. Your advice on friends is good but the problem with that is that nobody I know supports what I am doing. They all think I am crazy that I am studying this. They think it is a scam and that I should just stop. I don't even talk about it with friends anymore because that conversation just leads into big fights. It looks like flying solo for me is my only option at this point. Your advice really helps and I have run into a few of these problems and you have shed some light on them. Thanks!


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I love picking up in malls. I never thought I would stop a girl in a mall and start talking to her. But now I do.

Some things I've learnt:

- You're not always going to find GREAT sets. There's been times when I'd go into a mall and would only open like a few girls in an hour. Simply because there weren't many 8+ to me. Nightgame I'd basically open anything. But daygame, I really look for the VERY good looking girls, and I take the time to get to know them and see if their good looks are complimented with a good personality, if not: bye bye.

- You need to be alert. There'd be times when I wouldn't pay attention and attractive girls would walk past me, and I'd just notice them in the last second, but then it'd be too late. And I couldn't be fucked chasing them.

- Practice. I started practicing on store employees. I had major AA but little by little it went away.

- Don't stop. I made this mistake. I did day game consistently for about 2-3 months. In that time I got fairly good. Then I stopped for about 2-3 months. I thought to myself "I'll be able to pick up where I left off". Nope. It's almost as if everything I worked for was completely lost. Once you get steamed up, you just keep going.

- Get a wing or friend. Sometimes it can be a little daunting walking around a mall looking for a target. You're AA could really spike up especially if you spend like 20 minutes walking around looking for someone to open. In those 20 minutes alot could go through your mind and AA could become a potential issue. A wing or friend helps you get shit off your mind by keeping you company. Not only that, but your not in the mall for the specific purpose of "picking up". You're there with a friend and you're having fun. This is also useful if you tend to put yourself down if a set goes badly. A wing or friend would be there to cheer you up, make it look like it's not a big deal (which it isn't), and so on.

- Make eye contact. Smile. You can't really kino as much as you would in a nightgame. So you need to rely on non-verbal communication quite a bit. Heavy eye contact is very useful along with good body language.

- In one of the malls I go to it's split up, like people go in one direction, and on the other side people go in the opposite direction. What I do is, I go in the lane so I'm going against the shoppers. That means I'm walking TOWARDS people. If this is similar to your shopping mall, I suggest you do it. People won't always stick to the crowd, but more often than not it seems to happen. When walking TOWARDS people it's better because you have more time to see the girls, check her out, eye contact, smile, get her attention.

Hope those tips help you out.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of this. It means a lot to me. My mall does have two lanes as you described so I will definitely attempt to walk towards the people. Your advice on friends is good but the problem with that is that nobody I know supports what I am doing. They all think I am crazy that I am studying this. They think it is a scam and that I should just stop. I don't even talk about it with friends anymore because that conversation just leads into big fights. It looks like flying solo for me is my only option at this point. Your advice really helps and I have run into a few of these problems and you have shed some light on them. Thanks!
No problem dude!
I would recommend joining a lair if you can in your city, or try finding some wings close by to you with similar goals and who are in the same place as you.


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I love picking up in malls. I never thought I would stop a girl in a mall and start talking to her. But now I do.

Some things I've learnt:

- You're not always going to find GREAT sets. There's been times when I'd go into a mall and would only open like a few girls in an hour. Simply because there weren't many 8+ to me. Nightgame I'd basically open anything. But daygame, I really look for the VERY good looking girls, and I take the time to get to know them and see if their good looks are complimented with a good personality, if not: bye bye.

- You need to be alert. There'd be times when I wouldn't pay attention and attractive girls would walk past me, and I'd just notice them in the last second, but then it'd be too late. And I couldn't be fucked chasing them.

- Practice. I started practicing on store employees. I had major AA but little by little it went away.

- Don't stop. I made this mistake. I did day game consistently for about 2-3 months. In that time I got fairly good. Then I stopped for about 2-3 months. I thought to myself "I'll be able to pick up where I left off". Nope. It's almost as if everything I worked for was completely lost. Once you get steamed up, you just keep going.

- Get a wing or friend. Sometimes it can be a little daunting walking around a mall looking for a target. You're AA could really spike up especially if you spend like 20 minutes walking around looking for someone to open. In those 20 minutes alot could go through your mind and AA could become a potential issue. A wing or friend helps you get shit off your mind by keeping you company. Not only that, but your not in the mall for the specific purpose of "picking up". You're there with a friend and you're having fun. This is also useful if you tend to put yourself down if a set goes badly. A wing or friend would be there to cheer you up, make it look like it's not a big deal (which it isn't), and so on.

- Make eye contact. Smile. You can't really kino as much as you would in a nightgame. So you need to rely on non-verbal communication quite a bit. Heavy eye contact is very useful along with good body language.

- In one of the malls I go to it's split up, like people go in one direction, and on the other side people go in the opposite direction. What I do is, I go in the lane so I'm going against the shoppers. That means I'm walking TOWARDS people. If this is similar to your shopping mall, I suggest you do it. People won't always stick to the crowd, but more often than not it seems to happen. When walking TOWARDS people it's better because you have more time to see the girls, check her out, eye contact, smile, get her attention.

Hope those tips help you out.
Thank you so much for taking the time to write all of this. It means a lot to me. My mall does have two lanes as you described so I will definitely attempt to walk towards the people. Your advice on friends is good but the problem with that is that nobody I know supports what I am doing. They all think I am crazy that I am studying this. They think it is a scam and that I should just stop. I don't even talk about it with friends anymore because that conversation just leads into big fights. It looks like flying solo for me is my only option at this point. Your advice really helps and I have run into a few of these problems and you have shed some light on them. Thanks!
No problem dude!
I would recommend joining a lair if you can in your city, or try finding some wings close by to you with similar goals and who are in the same place as you.
I searched the web and it looks like there is no lair in my area but the area I am in is HUGE, bigger than many states. Maybe if I get good at this, I will start a lair for my area. For now, I fly solo until I find someone who shares this common goal.


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