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nicely played...


and yea he wont have an issue bc he made it quite clear he thought it was wierd she was tryng to be his gf after three dates....


nicely played... whoever original creator was... well done.

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- However, I'd drop the "I need an opinion..." from the beginning and replace it with a "Hey do you have a minute, I'd like another perspective....".
Disagree. I never ask opinion.
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I've actually come up with an opener that hints at pre-selection while you are sarging alone. I've field tested this and number closed. Basically, turn to a group, and ask in a serious voice:

Esperanto: "Hey girls, I need your opinion on something. Its sort of bugging me."

Group: "Sure"

Esperanto: "So I'm dating this girl right now. We've only been dating for a couple of weeks. I mean, everything is going well accept I just got a text message from her asking if we were boyfriend/girlfriend (say it in sort of a condescening manner). I mean, we've been dating for two weeks! Thats actually why I'm here right now, I'm trying to clear my head while figuring out how to respond."

Group: "Oh my god. I mean, do you like her?"

Esperanto "Who knows, its been two weeks! (devious smile)"

Now start becoming a PUA. You've disarmed them by claiming you are dating someone (even though you are totally available). You've DHV'd and shown pre-selection. You've explained why you are alone. You've given them a topic of convo they love. What else is there? Within five minutes of using this routine the target had asked if I'd slept with her yet. Obviously, I answered with "Nosy girl! How do you guys bring out a girl like this!." Let me know what you think.

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It could easily be terrible, but if used correctly and you are responsive enough to the group dynamic, you could make it work well. You just have to be careful that they don't get the idea that you're a bastard. Good quality women don't like players. Best approach would be to accuse them of being nosey - good lead onto saying the target talks too much (turn to her friend, "how do you take her out?")

Don't give them anymore info - move onto other material.
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- However, I'd drop the "I need an opinion..." from the beginning and replace it with a "Hey do you have a minute, I'd like another perspective....".
Disagree. I never ask opinion.
I think looking over your shoulder to them and, "Hey guys, I want a female perspective on something..." and just go straight into it.

Got to eliminate as much of "asking to ask" as possible.
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soo basically i am new...and i opened a girl today USING THIS OPENER to a hb 8.and let me tell u the opener worked:d.SO thank you.i was in the computer lab in my college today to print out something at my break.and i sat beside this hb 8 i mentioned.she didnt look at me at all and was busy chking facebook.so after 10-15 mins i dicided to try this opener but was thinking of not saying it but eventually got the guts to say it.i got my phone out and acted like i got a text message after 5 mins i asked the girl:hey i need a opinion,i have been going out with this girl for a couple of weeks and i just got a text message from her asking if we were bf/gf . she asked how long have u been dating again.i told her 2 weeks.she asked do u like her?i said well she is more like a friend to me.then she told me you should just tell her that you u dont like her.i said wow is that how u respond to the guys u wanna get away from,with a big smile i suppose as a neg.she said:what?no.and i guess she said it with i smile too.so then she told me again that you guys should talk to her face to face.and i told her yea,again i just got this text massage.so i didnt no what to sayy after thiss unfortunately:(.so i got up from the chair thanked her.asked her name and she asked mine and i shaked her hand and left:(.i feel pretty bad for the fact that i didnt number close.but it was my first opener EVER.i would like to say that my delivery wasnt bad and once i opened i wasnt nervous at all.its just that sometimes i mumble but think i didnt it this time.i was also leaned back and sitting comfortably so it seemed that i wasnt really a nervous guy but then again i really felt bad at the part i got up because she didnt really have anything to say after that and i didnt have anything neither so i prevented the silence moment which i wanna work on.so wHat do you guys think?any suggestions or opinions will be greatly appreciated:).
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I field-tested this a few times. I found it to be great opener... it shows DHV while opening the set for discussion. As long as you show disinterest in the 'other girl' it will show 'pre-selection' and open you quickly for another stack. If you bounce off quickly with another gambit, you're golden!
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It's a solid opener for why you are alone and why you are asking them. Instead of saying i'm clearing my head (as to why your alone) which is a DLV say i'm just going to be meeting up with some friends in a while which gives the impression you got something going on... You can always make friends there too which helps you circle sets if need be.
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Field tested and approved.

Ventmonkey and I tried this tonight w/ positive results.

As soon as we stepped into the club smiles and all, me and him converesed , with my back to my 2 set,HB7 & HB5. I pull out my cell to make it look like i got a text and lean at an angle and ask:

Justincredible
"Hey" (kino tap the outside of arm of hb7)
HB7 leans back w/ still her back turned to me, but although my back still facing he,r my face facing at an angle.
"Lemme ask you girls a question. I've been seeing this girl for a bit, and its all good I think, but then just now she texts me wondering if were bf or gf." (funny thing is I didnt express it as a question. I kinda gave them a summary.)

HB7
"wow how do you feel about her."
Justincredible
"I care for her, but I see her more like a sister."
HB5
"How long were you two together?"
Justincredible
"We went out on 3 dates."

At this time Vent comes in to convo w/ HB5.

HB7
"Wow thats not long at all. She sounds like she maybe alittle crazy."
Justincredible
"Well since you may possibly sense one of your own(I say it fairly fast), how do you deal with the poor schmuck nice guys? How do you let them know its better to be friends?
HB7
"Heeeey sense my own?" I inturrupt her.
Justincredible
"Now now dont bust a blood vessel, I was just saying youre fairly attractive.." she interrupts
HB7
"Fairly?" I inturrupt her
Justincredible
"Attractive (smile flash) so all I'm saying is that you've had youre share of nice guys, who've become good friends, how that happen?"
HB7
"Well I just told them straight forward, I think we should be friends."
Justincredible
"That may be hard for alot of guys to buy that. I'm sure they see something in you, that you cant. But I kinda see it."
HB7
"Oh yea whats that?"
Justincredible
"Lets step here for a second. (FTC & isolation) Well what could possibly be about you that you think guys are drawn to? "
HB7
"Well I hope its my personality but its probably(kinda giggles) my body parts."
Justincredible
"Thats not what I see. Is there more to you than the hair and the pink purse?"
HB7
"Im..uh blah blah blah."
Justincredible
I put out my hands to see if she grabs. And she does.I squeeze she squeezes back. I smile and so does she.

"Well miss personality, I need to get back to my friend but I'd like to continue this away from the bar and I dont even know your name"
HB7
"Its Ashley"
Justincredible
"My name is Justin"
I brake the hand holding to get out my phone. I give it to her.
"Here."
She unflips it and puts her number, calls it, and hands it back.
I put out my arms for a hug. We hug.
We then go back to the other two. Politely eject.


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Dude.... that is SO money.

Yeah man, definitely trying this one.
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I think its great, I agree I wouldnt dwell on it too long. Use it as a bit of juicy gossip for the girls to move in with. Mentioning something like "the girls gorgeous, a 10! but I mean its been 2 weeks!" is a nice way to fit it in there.
You could also mention 1 of the two weeks, you were away in New York the whole time just texting - to make it even more odd, and then see if they ask why you were in new york, and shift it over to something else.
But the idea is to show you're accepted by women, and then get them to forget the whole gf part.

unprepared - I've actually been in huge fights with my ex when we're at the bar and just gone up to a bunch of girls at a table and straight out said "my girlfriends being a bitch, so I'm hanging out with you guys tonight" and the girls have blasted all the dudes who were hitting on them away and instantly threw me in as one of their group. Which I actually ended up making out with two of the girls from the group later that night.

great opener dude, maybe revise it here and there to really hit the spikes and get it home but I think it has a lot of great selling points!
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The opinion opener works really well.

Its kind of like the third party approach.

I think why it works so well is because the focus is taken off the girl and put onto something else.

Girls esp hot ones are so used to being the direct target of a guys attention.

When you ask her opinion on a sitaution YOU have .. focus is off her and you come across as someone she can trust more, because you don't want anything from HER .. other than her opinion.

Use it more often =)

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its rubbish
I disagree its a pretty good Night game and classroom opener
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I don't like opinion openers TBH. I have never tried one but they just seem... cheesy to me..just my opinion though.
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