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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:44 am 
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I'm not sure how push-pull works or even really what it is...some good material or examples would be a big help. Thanks!

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A good example is to lead her on as if you were interested in doing something, and then telling her to slow down or calm down. Basically you show interest and then slightly over-react to her accepting it, making her feel like the aggressor.

It's meant to DHV and show you have patience, while at the same time getting her to feel she's being the huntress and trying to impress you. It takes some time to master but if you do it right it works wonders.

Then there is the opposite of that, which is to show interest, then show IOD's, getting her to invest in you more to try to proof herself of DHV to you. Basically you act as if you are interested, and then kinda fade off making her wonder why you lost interest, and then she tries to get that interest back. I've found it's better to use this strategy (P/P, either example) later on in mid-game, and not rapport building. You would use the rapport building at some point to display your IOD, however.

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Simple examples of this is
1) Call her a bad name like "you lil booger" as you hug her. (u push and you are pulling her)
2) Tell her that she is so sexy, while you push her aside. (u pull her to you then you push her away.

simple examples which you ca elaborate on and make more complex....

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I'm more into blond girls, but you're cute for a brunette. That's as basic as they come....

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I'm interested to know if there are any push/pull tactics that focus on building sexual tension. If any PUAs can give more examples, post them.

The best one I can come up with is, (get close to her chick and ears) "Im trying so hard not to kiss you right now" (push her away) "enough of that"....

Please post others (advanced or basic) so that we solidify our understanding of push/pull dynamics. Thanks

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Attraction phase: So you're ignoring her and gaming the obstacle, she butts in a few times, you neg her. You see those "who IS this guy" eyes on her. "No seriously, way to stick up for yourself, you're cool" *CLAW* pull her in, then push her away "ok, that's all you get."

Qualification/Comfort: "You know when we first met I was like, oh yeah another random party girl, but actually you can be kind of deep when you want to be...shame you're still a nerd for loving Weezer ;-)"

Seduction: "let's swing by my place so I can lend you that CD, but then you gotta go cuz I have to be up early"

Kino: Plough, drop off, re-engage, escalate, break contact, re-engage, escalate, etc.

The basic concept is - give her a little of what she wants (an IOI, a touch, the promise of sex) and then take it away. This makes her want it back, and makes her want to chase you. This makes her invest more in the interaction. She backwards rationalises that the only reason she's chasing you so bad is because she must REALLY BE INTO YOU :-)

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I Love it, blondguy.
Imma try to develop some push/pull. Once I do, which should be in about a week (been busy), can I PM you so that you can judge them?

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Here's how I see it. Every time you IOI your using pull, and every time you neg, IOD, false disqualify, freeze out, tease etc is all push. In the attraction phase and some of the comfort phase, every pull initiated by you must be followed by either a push or a softner and vice versa. Thats why some PUA's use kino as they neg the target, for example a side hug while saying to her friends,"you can dress her up but you cant take her anywhere." This way the neg doesn't sting as much. Another example is, depending on the scenario, telling the girl,"i like you, your so cute" and then immediately ignoring her. This last one works great because the girl begins to have doubts about your liking her, and seeks revalidation from you. If you went up to a girl and said the same thing but this time you stayed and tried to chat, chances are she would write you off as just another chump she easily won over.


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its like

"your sexy" I fuck u


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Well, if God gave you heaven, then took it away from you, what would you feel? Of course, since it's eternal happiness, you're gonna want it back. Now that you're craving for it, the next time he gives it to you, you savor it.

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Attraction phase: So you're ignoring her and gaming the obstacle, she butts in a few times, you neg her. You see those "who IS this guy" eyes on her. "No seriously, way to stick up for yourself, you're cool" *CLAW* pull her in, then push her away "ok, that's all you get."

Qualification/Comfort: "You know when we first met I was like, oh yeah another random party girl, but actually you can be kind of deep when you want to be...shame you're still a nerd for loving Weezer ;-)"

Seduction: "let's swing by my place so I can lend you that CD, but then you gotta go cuz I have to be up early"

Kino: Plough, drop off, re-engage, escalate, break contact, re-engage, escalate, etc.

The basic concept is - give her a little of what she wants (an IOI, a touch, the promise of sex) and then take it away. This makes her want it back, and makes her want to chase you. This makes her invest more in the interaction. She backwards rationalises that the only reason she's chasing you so bad is because she must REALLY BE INTO YOU :-)

See Im stuck at the attraction phase. If I game her friend, all she is interested in is talking to her friend not trying to win my attention. So what am I doing wrong?


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See Im stuck at the attraction phase. If I game her friend, all she is interested in is talking to her friend not trying to win my attention. So what am I doing wrong?
So remember, you want to hold the attention of the ENTIRE set, not just talk to one of them. You're telling your story to everyone, but only giving your target like 10% of the eye contact, and only asking questions and listening to answers from EVERYONE ELSE BUT HER. Anything she says you say "how do you guys hang out with her?" or "does she always butt in like this?" etc. so she gets frustrated and is like "how come he likes my friend(s) but not MEEEE?" THEN you turn your attention to her and give her a little kino and a compliment, followed by an IOD, and then you can turn your attention to her and isolate.

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Blondguy,
I can see how that would happen. However, how do you hold the attention of the group when you are in a setting that is very loud? I have done this before where it was more quite, but as soon as it is a noisy setting (nightclub or bar), I notice that I die because my stories or chit-chat is not heard by the other people. And I am loud! That is not the reason. I just think that the noise make it very difficult to follow this tactic.... Any ideas?

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