Right?

I was just talking to a coworker and mind you he's extremely good looking, soft spoken, and gets a ton of tail. I asked him how he gets girls to like him. He said, "The first thing I do is complement the girl, I always give compliments."
So I'm thinking to myself sarcastically, "So that's the secret huh? Just giving compliments, why didn't I think of that before!" lol
He has no idea about pick up but he gets tail, lots of it. I'm going to go out with him this weekend, should be a good wing.

Guys, if you want advice I'd say don't ask extremely good looking guys.

That would be a natural... If you go direct you can do whatever you want. With enough inner game you can break every rule and still get the girl.

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Well natural game or not, what does he hit on like 5-6s ? The lower selfesteem the further a compliment gets you, but in a point he's right, but by simply approaching them chicks know ur not there to sell girl scout cookies.



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only in moderation. If you just keep giving compliments it makes you look desperate and like a loser.

Giving a compliment is like giving her a small high (self-esteem boost). Just do it to show her that you are interested and then don't compliment her anymore.

I think it's fair to give a slight compliment. Like "Hey I like your shoes." or something around those lines. Just be honest.

Now then you might wanna follow up with a slight neg. "Hey I like your shoes... I saw some other girl wearing the exact same pair a few minutes ago."

Then pick it back up. "But hey, I don't blame you that you both bought the same shoes. They look really good on you" OR "But you look a little better in those shoes than that other girl did."

Either way. Compliments or Negs, they should both work. The main point is just to open with SOMETHING. Especially if the girl is checking you out. Open with SOMETHING. Heck, anything!

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You also have to look at his body language, how does he hold himself while he approaches and how does he react with said interaction? I've been toying with gaming a chick without talking hardly at all, using nothing but proper body language.

This does two things:
1. She has to invest in you more, building attraction to you; provided her body language is showing interest (the body can't lie, unless you are conscious of it, which most women won't think about when you approach them, they naturally react to what they feel/think and often times its not what is coming out of their mouth) and you can keep her talking.

2. It shows a DHV, as you are in complete control of the flow conversation, allowing you to send her BLS (Body language signals) that most all women read accurately, consciously or subconsciously, and she will respond favorably if she is interested. This also allows you to see how favorably you are doing, and gives you the ability to adjust your game to get a more favorable response.

Reading her BL is important because almost all men fail to see when a woman is available, interested, and most importantly, WANTS to be approached. Just because her BL is not pointed at you at first doesn't mean she doesn't want to be approached, it just means she hasn't sent signals to you yet. So find a chick who appears (in BL) to want to be approached and run with it.

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That's a good point. I should try that. I feel like a lot of us invest waaaay too much in the girl (that includes me). Maybe I'll try not saying much and see how it goes.

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One of the biggest problems I've seen with the PUA community is that even the best ones don't understand Social Circles and investment in a HB8+ without gaming her for the purpose of a score. They can be used as SP and access to other chicks with a lot less work. I pull a lot of tail strictly through that methodology right there. Not always gaming the chick, but gaming her friends through her, with out her knowing it.

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This is pretty AFC I think. He is probably going for the uggers and they take any attention they can get.

If you want hot girls who are confident and know they are hot, a neg is the way to go.
I totally agree with the above quote from Turbo. That would work on me - I would be like "OMG someone else has the same shoes as me!! But they totally look better on me than they do on her"

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....Thought you might like a girl's opinion....

Its TRUE. Negging a woman shows that you haven't enough courage to tell her what you really think.

Real compliments, which are sincere, show self-confidence. Women like to lead boys on and to feel chased. You might not pick up the girl but you will show courage.

I think you're missing the point of being a PUA. What good is courage when you go to bed alone every night? I'm not saying go berate some chick, what I'm saying is they hear compliments from chumps all day, everyday. The negg is the curve ball that disengages them from their typical automated response.

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Compliment or neggs, doesn't matter... what matters is attraction. If there is attraction, she will be interested in you and give you IOI's... at this point, she will be receptive to all your advances (whether they be negs or compliments, or simple fun conversation, or if you ask her out, or anything). If there is no attraction, it doesn't matter what you say... you can compliment or neg all you want and this will make no difference. Guys, it is all about attraction... How do you attract girls? SP is one method... your fashion and style are other methods... but this is what matters.

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I believe this guy hit it on the spot. The FIRST thing you need to do gaming in bars and clubs is develop attraction. And there are tons of different ways to do that! Alot of men who are very experienced with women, and very good, can literally open with an honest statement about the womens appearance. But the difference with them is that they talk more with their body language.

Field test this shit, try David x's two rules 1) I'm the most important person in this relationship, and 2) who cares what she thinks. Run this through your mind, then go up to a women and honestly tell her something positive you've noticed about her appearance. You wont know if it works unless till you try it.

My best friend pisses me off..he gets more girls than any man I have ever met largely because he is ubber good looking..and don't forget mojo..once you are consistantly bagging girls, your body language and manorism's say: I don't give a shit..and girls smell this in the air!!
I think if you are anything from avaragely good looking down then you need some core talking points of interest by this I mean things that arouse passion in you and that will exude from you! we are all different for me I love Music and cooking and can talk from the heart about this....find yours and milk it!!

ps: I am on the look out for London wings. x