To the moderators: Please move to another forum as your see fit, as the Day 2 hasn't been set up yet, so this might have been in the "mid-game" area.

Hey guys,

This is the problem. 3 days ago, my friend and I did some day game. We went to the streets and used indirect game on a 2 set, under the pretense that we were looking for a local designer store and that I was an exchange student (I am based in China, but not Chinese) and he was showing me around. Anyhow, we ran this thread for quite some time and we got them to walk with us to near the locale they suggested. Then after around 10 minutes my wing asked for his target for her number, she didn't want to give it to him, and asked her friend to give hers instead. Her friend complied and gave him her number.

Then we made some mistakes, we called them twice on the same day. Once, for my friend asking them whether he could give the other girl's (which was my target) number to me and the second time on the same day he asked whether they'd like to hang out with us sometime soon. After a long wait, they replied that they weren't available.

Now, I haven't called them yet, and am going to call my target today. The thing is they might've smelt that we have some interest in them and that might have triggered their ASD. Now, I would like to ask them both out but on our first encounter I doubt there was enough comfort or attraction. Although we did make them giggle a bit...So I was wondering what YOU recommend on how to handle this situation. I know to have the abundance mentality and go for another one, but I want to plow through this set and see how it goes.

My thoughts are to call her and then tell her that myself and my wing shall be going out with some friends to so and so place, I'll give them the time and venue and give them the option of coming or not (thus giving them the impression that we don't need them and have not much interest in them, hopefully lowering their ASD), this invitation shall be veiled under the excuse that it was fun talking to them and thus they can hang out with us. What do you think?

P.S. The girl doesn't know I can speak her language, I spoke English to her. I have no plans to reveal that I know the language either. So while calling her today it might be a bit tricky to make her understand...

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!

Speak her language for christ sake, you weirdo. Do you think you're some suave secret agent and you're just waiting for the right time to impress her by speaking her language? Or maybe you think you're in a cheezy sitcom where you wait until she says something scandalous about you to her friend and you respond with something witty in her language. Girls love being tricked like that! Speaking her language will also build some comfort, duh.

Anyway. Your plan sounds good, go with it. What I would do is drop out my friend and the other girl and just try to get the target to meet me somewhere public and quick, a starbucks or whatever. Maybe things work differently in whatever country you're at, but in the West, ASD isn't activated until someone the girl knows might see her leaving alone with you, like when you pull from a bar. In some eastern cultures, I guess a girl can look like a slut just being alone with a man that's not a relative, like in Iran or India.

Hey,

I went ahead and SMSed her w/o the belief that she'd SMS back. Mainly because of lack of comfort during our encounter. My exact text:

"Hey, this is the exchange student you and your friend showed around last Sunday. Thanks for that...You two seemed like a fun group. My friends and I are going to this really GOOD place this Friday and if you an your friend want to come that's fine, if not its ok with me. Cheers"

She replied with:

"Oh. I'm afraid that we can't. Recently, i got a summer job. Do you have msn?"

This was something that if she replied I was expecting, due to initial display of neediness. But not the latter bit of her text with her asking for my instant messenger details.


This kind of confused me since the former part of her text could be interpreted as an excuse to get away...Or it could be genuine. I don't know. Now, it's confusing because if it were an excuse why is she asking for my instant messenger? This in itself could be a way to seem polite and then never talk to me again. Not sure.

Please comment.

My plan ahead is to be frank with her that I am indeed not an exchange student, but not to talk with her in her language. Simply because it might DHV me if I possess some knowledge far greater than hers. English...use msn to game her then ask her out. Not sure, if I should ask her friend out for my wing as well...for a double date..her friend seems to have a lot of ASD.

Another thought is to say that, "Oh, I don't give my msn to just anybody (to seem as not needy), you could give me yours and I shall add you if I feel like it." This is just to show that I am no needy and create attraction. Or is this an unnecessary step??

No. Give her your MSN and talk to her on MSN. MSN is a step up from SMS, it's faster and lets you talk more. It means she's interested in getting to know you, but not comfortable enough to meet up with you. Build that comfort on MSN, it should only take one chat. Do not play games here, she is reaching out to you; reach back, don't punish her. MSN will let you work out details for a meeting much faster than text. You can even say, "Wow, we've been talking on here for an hour already. It's kind of silly when we can be talking in person." I still disagree with you hiding the fact that you know her language, it would let you communicate better and it seems dishonest not to use it.

She is interested. Assuming that she is just being polite and blowing you off is you being insecure. Never assume she doesn't like you. If she wanted to avoid you, she just wouldn't text back.