OK here it is. This works about 4 out of 5 times and even if it doesn’t its great for finding out more info about a HB with out being a AFC.

Have the HB tell you 5 things about her and tell her one of them has to be wrong, and you will tell her which one it is.

Now, how to be able to pick out the wrong statement. If you are watching her mannerisms closely and can tell if she is right or left handed, this will help. If she is right handed she will think/be creative/ lie and look left, if she is left handed she will look right. This how ever is not always the case because some people are right handed but have right brain creativity. So what i will usually do is watch her eye movements. If she consistently looks one-way and then says one thing and look the other way, there its is. Also don't let her think the questions out before hand, have her tell you them on the fly, with no prep.

This works well and the info can be used later on, in the night or for other dates.

ENJOY

P.S. let me know if you guys have any other

Anyone try this out?

i like the sound of this one

ill give it ago on the weekend and get back 2 u

cheers,

kannon

Neat thing.
U got a lot more ways to tell if a person is lying though.
To give a couple examples; she might do a slight bodyrocking when she is lying.
If she is leaning back on a stool, she might readjust her positioning.
Some touch there face when they are lying, (chin etc.)
Even subtle changes in the voice can be made when she gets a different pulse.(hard to pick up sometimes)
the list goes on and on, but I think that if u keep these things in mind, you will have the routine work a bit more often =)

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there def are lots of ways to tell. One good thing i like about this one is that you get to stair directly into her eyes. This would never be full proof you could probably get the probability to 9 out of 10 right but, the key i have found to this game is to make her say thinks quickly with no preparation. if she perps it will be easy for her to look you dead in the face and lie. Give it a try this weekend and let me know. it's a fun routine just to find out info about her that you can use later, and you find it out in a very low key fashion.

Can't wait for tonight!! Sargin with my boys!

Having two HB8.5s on a couch, talking away laughing, I did this one. It took 20 minutes for her to figure out how to even play this. I explained it three times and even then at the end of the game she didn't tell any lies. Which was funny because inuitively I really thought she hadn't lied. I did this one on a 5 set, four girls one guy as a DHV/Attraction building. I did it after a spin move, I love the spin move after doing a Time Constraint. It's like a bubble pops in peoples heads. The spin move is when you take the HBs hand spin them to where you are standing and you to where they were standing, extending the "Look I stole your place" gambit, making it even smoother. After that on guessed that she lied on the fourth question. She freaked out and had a good laugh, I ended the set there, in retrospect I could have kept it going to ages.

I like this quote:
"Once you open a set, it's open", you can come and go as you please, come back to say hi, introduce people. For large sets where you cannot remember specific names, introduce them as "The Brady Bunch". Once sets have been opened you can leave your friends in groups, mix them around, observe how they interact and listen to their interactions. Even though you can excuse yourself, you have already made five friends, in the space of five minutes.

On the other hand, I did the five questions game on the other HB and she lost twice HAHAHAHA! First time she got the 4th question right, then she got the 5th question right. It was a laugh and there was some generally good Kino building going on. At the end of the set, I had built attraction and comfort. It was exactly what I needed to move on to other sets. That night I opened at least 20 sets, some only for a few minutes, still it's all social calibration.

The lying/5 statement game is great, because it definetly builds up your calibration for social dynamics. The key to calibration is A, being your best self, B, being aware of the social setting/set.

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Sweet man glad to hear it work well for you. You def need to be on your A game to play the 5 statement game. I have also run it a few times and i found if you are around the girl for 7-10 mins and have good flow its easier to tell if she is lying or not, you just need to be attentive. The 5 Statement game works great and is very impressive and easy if you have a good social skill set.

A little help with lie detection for the "5 statement game"
http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies_eyes.php

Im heavy into hypnotics and mind reading tricks.

Honestly the best way to test if someone is lying is to just watch for the eyemovement that is different to the other 4. Its that simple.

so if she looks down the the left, she remembering an image, but then one of them she just keeps steady eye contact. Bam thats the one shes lying on. Its full proof just look for the odd one out.


I wana tell you guys more about hardcore cold reading but I need to get out of the habbit of telling people! Sorry!

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You want to get out of the habit of telling people? Come on... haha... Geez, it seems like there is 20 people max that are gonna read this anyway...

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A little off subject but can you tell us more. Any good books/sites/ other that would help people looking to learn more? Start a new thread with more info about this. Check out this site, its very good.

http://www.thegameplayers.com/derren_brown/default.htm

i was just wandering maybe u can add a little kino to this too such as, 'i can tell if ure lying by feeling ure pulse' so then u can take out her wrist and feel for the pulse, maybe even her neck pulse. this also is a good way to see if she's lying as an increase in the pulse means shes lying.

any thoughts?

Alpha mike- Its not really that sophisticated. You could ask to hold her hand just to hold them for kino which is a good idea. As far as tell her I want to feel your pulse, thats a little creepy. But this does work well and i like the idea of holding her hands. Good luck with using this.

Has anyone found NLP to have a steeper learning curve than other methods? It seems like it would be very complicated.

this worked last night i had her laughing and sent her through a range of emotions. good stuff.