i found her on facebook. we used to go to elementary school together. we started talking. i asked her on a date and she said yes. and idk it was just theres something about her that had me going crazy. she was amazing to me. i didnt want to stop talking to her at all. and so she kinda blew me off for awhile and then texted me a couple weeks ago saying she wanted to talk to me normally she tries to blow guys off but with me she didnt want to. so it seemed whatever she was doing to me i was also doing to her. we went out on a date it was great. we went to see a movie had starbucks talked. then after the movie was over we went to walmart and then got a tub of ice cream and some spoons and went up to a spot where you could see the town. we were up there conversating greatly that we lost track of time. so then 3 in the morning rolled around so we were like oh shnap its late lets get you home. but she wasnt freaking out about the time so i didnt think much of it. dropped her off. heres the good part. the linger part of the hug goodbye on IOI like she wants me to kiss her. but i couldnt do it. it was something about her that made me feel like an eighth grader trying to kiss a girl for the first time i was to nervous. so she opens the door. i thought i blew it. but she only pokes her head inside. looks around and turns and faces me. i knew it was going down. no avoiding it now. she says "do you want to kiss me?" me "yes i do" i stammer like an idiot. she says "well then kiss me" so then i fidget like a kid then i finally do it. it was great man. i kissed her and felt like i was on top of the world. the following day we text and its great and she was worried i didnt have fun with her. so i go to see her before she has to work out and before i leave town. it was only for like fifteen minutes again shes worried that i didnt have fun. i insist i did. so then i walk her to her car. we hug she went in for the kiss but she caught me cheeck because i went for the hug. so immediatly i pull back and start kissing her. and then we say bye. that day. i text her saying i cant stop thinking about her. two hours go by. i text her saying sorry if that was to forward. two hours go by. by now im thinking wtf. and so i text her saying blah blah blah im driving i would appreciate the company if you get the chance i know you must be busy. so then she finally replies and says sorry i was doing legs and cardio and then she got invited to some party. so im like wtf like anybody has time to text somebody even if they are busy. so i know somethings up. then the next day i send her a simple text in the afternoon saying "heeeyyyyy " and then two hours later..."hey im sorry. i dont think we can talk anymore im so sorry" yea i memorized it because it haunts me. she was perfect solid ten. shes a fitness show model. blonde great body. christian. wholesome. trustworthy. smart. goal oriented. but her mom doesnt want her to talk to me anymore...shes my age 20. only 3 days older than me. her mom says she was home wayyyy to late and is worried because she thiinks im to attached to soon. not the case i just apreaciate her because shes different from all the other girls. im going crazy. ive been listening to "find your love" for a day straight on repeat. i ate once yesterday. wtf..im obsessing. she deleted her facebook. im just lost right now. its so weird. but she did text me and said shes not happy about this and shes working on it but for now we cant talk. i dont get it.

You might have come across as too needy. Usually if a girls parents don't like you it actually helps. Freeze her out. Don't text or talk to her for awhile. Take your battery out of your phone if you have to. Make her wonder what you are doing and who you are doing it with.

ok. well how long should i wait to talk to her? because since her mother doesn't want us to talk. and it seems as tho shes just doing what her mom says even tho she said she wasnt happy about it. So when do I break this vow of silence? A week? Two weeks?

and she didnt delete her facebook. she blocked me. do you think thats her saying something? or is it just something her mom is making her do?

You cant assume that. I know that you had a great first date and all but you might have been heading to the LJBF zone. The kiss might have been a false IOI just to build her confidence, or maybe she just did it to see if you would lose your mind. Sometime hot girls like to watch men squirm. And really bro cmon. She is an adult. If she really wanted to see you her snatch would be dripping over the Romeo & Juliet fantasy. Nothing would stop her. Would you stop talking to/seeing a girl because mommy and daddy told you not to? Hardly!

My personal advice is to drop her like a sack of bricks and wait for her to come to you. If she doesn't come to you, oh well, find another one. In fact, go out and find another one anyway. Dont let this girl become too special. Yeah, she's hot, yeah she's smart, blah blah blah. There are billions of them out there. They could probably make action figures out of her! Fuck her. Now REACH DOWN, grab some sack and go out and fuck someone else!

I know it is harsh to hear that man and I am not putting you down but you are just reeking of AFC right now. Take the pain and disappointment and let it motivate you to try that much harder to get another one and then when you get another one...then get another one, and when you get that one then...etc. This is just a speed bump on your path to glory. When you get upset or angry remember this phrase "They are all whores, except for your mom....she is a retired whore."

Yea your right. I just have an obsessive nature that It's the chase I love. I obsess about it until I get it then It's not what I built it up in my head to be so I always end up dropping it. It's just rare some bullshit like this ever happens to me that's why I obsessed so much. I definetly made her to special in my head because of my obsessing I just needed to be brought back to reality. Thanx Phazzle I hope you can help out with any more posts now that I found this place I will have more to come.

I think there are a few things to think about here. Sometimes you think everything goes well and it was a fun date when the other person doesn't have quite the same glowing reviews about it all. I'm not suggesting she had no fun. But it seems maybe things are just different levels for both of you. You did come off as clingy and needy with all of the texts. That is probably why you were blocked on facebook. The girl is 20. How many girls at 20 even bother to tell their mother who they are dating? You brought her home too late but she can go to a party? It just seems all of that is just an excuse. Freezing her out is the only way to go. If nothing else it means you keep your self respect. If you text a girl and it takes an hour for her to get back to you. You really shouldn't text her back until an hour and one minute passes at least. Let's say her name is Karen. If she called me, I'd act like she was another Karen. I'd just make her seem like she was insignificant. If she is that hot, then what better to knock her down to size than to confuse her with someone else? She's used to everyone bending over backwards. You can't just be another guy that's easy to manipulate. Considering that she has went to such great lengths to avoid you, I think your window of opportunity is gone. Always be working at dating several women at once. If nothing else, it keeps you from getting too preoccupied with one. It helps doing that because you start looking at each girl as a number and sometimes that's what is needed. You can still stay all the right things and act the right way but are to where you really don't care. Honestly, one of the worst things you can do initially is care about them or care about what they think of you.