I'm off out next Fri evening for some drinks with a group of guys from work but my night game totally sucks.

The bars and clubs I go to are full of hotties where every guy is trying their luck and getting knocked back left, right and centre! The other trouble I find with them is that bars and clubs are way too noisy and crowded to get my usual game going.

The only guys I see succeeding are the super good looking ones or the guys that dance like they've just won the National Salsa competition.

Daytime game is far easier for me. To me the night game is the holy grail and I'm desperate to improve here.

The only tip I've got so far is not to get drunk. I'd welcome all tips from you guys on quick fire openers, how to transition from there and also keeping the energy level up!

Cheers fellas!

May i recommend Kezia's "FREE One-night stand Guide" from <a href="http://kezianoble.org/">Kezia-Noble</a>(DOT)com

It is should give you an insight into the diffrent types of girls, and club game if your aim is to get a one night stand

Cheers jtaz! Quite useful material there to bear in mind.

My main sticking point is to initiate the conversation in a dark, crowded and very loud environment.

no problem, talking is over rated

your vibe and physical tonality matters far more

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Here are a few tips: get drunk, have fun, dont go out to get laid - just go to the club/pub and have a blast in the best way you can.

Now let me explain why this will improve your game, failure - will bring you down, lower your energy level.

having fun will: raise ur energy level, make you look like your the shizz and well anything that will make u stick out of the crowd is grand.

e.g every guy there is to TRY to get some yeh?

you should single yourself out, your out with friends and your having a blast!

Now lets say you approach a girl there and she rejects you, you just shake ur shoulders turn around and keep doing your thing.

Another thing which makes me luagh everytime I go clubing or go anywhere where people do dance, is that some guys to dance with their buttocks and completly ignore the fact THEY ARE GUYS, use ur shoulders follow the base or beat with the shoulders and let your body just follow, so my advise is ur out clubing to have fun not meet ur dream gal, as easy as that.

Trust me when I say this - you dont want to do anything else then get laid with a party girl, they are under you and you should act accordingly.

She rejects you? well consider it as being rejected by a moldy cheese in your fridge, it just does'nt matter.

so to conclude, go out have fun and the rest shall follow.

SF

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Sorry dude i don't have any tips for you except to back up what SF just said.

It's funny that this post is coming up now because most of my adult life I've struggled with club game. Mostly because I can't hear anything. I can stand with a group of friends and unless they're yelling right in my ear i can't hear them.
Also i'd just straight out refues to dance with anyone. I can't dance and i really didn't enjoy it at all.

But recently I decided to just say 'fuck the free world' and go for it. I've been having the time of my life ever since i started not trying to pick up and just started trying to have fun. I get out on the dance floor and just ignore everyone around me. I've really been pushing the limits of bad dancing and the funniest thing is that girls acctually approach me and tell me how good a dancer i am. I'm not a good dancer. This i know. But the energy i'm pumping out is amazing.

I'm out in the clubs looking like a fool and having a great time. You should go and do the same.

i agree with SF aswell bro. maybe you should look at some of my night club field reports. im in no way saying i am master pua at club game i am still learning everytime i go but i do try certain things to see what i am capable of. and i know for sure that if your having fun, you look like your having fun, and no one can take that happiness away it will get you far.

that line made me LOL