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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:14 pm 
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I met this girl at a club and things were going pretty well, lots of kino. I got her number, texted her a lot, and now we're going to hang out in a cool area which is within walking distance of my house.

There isn't really much to do in my area (just clothing shops, haircutters, food, etc), and she hasn't really said anything she wants to do, the only thing for sure is that she wants to eat something. But I am pretty sure she is into me, and that I could fuck her if I only knew what to do and don't screw up.

Anyway, I know this seriously awesome Mexican restaurant/bar near my house. I'm thinking that we could meet up, go to the restaurant, get take-out, and then go to my house where we will somehow end up fucking.


My PUA skills are still not that strong, so I could use advice on what to do when we meet.

1. For convincing her to go back to my place, what should I say? A few things I can think of are:

a. I have a ton of liquor and a cocktail shaker, so maybe I could try to say that I want to make her a really awesome drink? Or that we could do it so we don't have to pay for drinks at the bar?
b. There is a movie rental place nearby, so maybe I could rent a movie in advance and ask if she wants to watch it at my place?
c. I could say that the view from my balcony is really good and we should eat there while watching the scenery..?


2. How to transition from eating mexican food to fucking? Any tips here would be seriously helpful!! Maybe alcohol would help? I am pretty unsure of what to do so any specific ideas would help a lot!!!


Thanks everyone!! :)
I am going to sleep now but I will respond to any questions, etc in the morning.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:01 pm 
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for a start, don't anticipate getting an f-close - it makes you come across as needy and slightly desperate. The biggest job you have to do is beam confidence, play C+F and escalate like you would in a bar. Walking around hiding a boner because you are imagining her sucking your dick is not good.

As far as a date goes, I suggest you go to the movie-rental shop before the date, pick up a good film. When you meet her (ideally walking distance from your place) take her back to yours, make up some excuse like you've forgotten something. This gets her accustomed to your place, and lets her feel more at ease when she comes back a second time. Try to make her leave something behind - sunglasses, her bag.. anything.

When you go to eat - take a table at the Mexican restaurant - eat in, and then take her back to watch the film, or if you've played it right - she might just want you there and then. If not, watch the film, snuggle up and escalate from there..

If she's going out with you, she's already into you by some degree.. chill out.

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I would suggest rewiring yourself into thinking - whatever will happen, it will be good. Very well said above that you will look needy for that. You will unconsciously think how to fuck her and this will lead you into doing stupid things. Do whatever is fun with her and if you will play well, you will feel confidence to do a move and if you will not, you will be desperate because of planning to fuck her before the date.

Just enjoy her company, share your happiness with her.


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Thanks for the tips, I just bought a couple movies today 8)


One more question:

How do you answer when a girl asks things like:

"Do you have a girlfriend?"

"What kind of girls do you like?"

"Do you love me?"

Or anything about whether I want to be her boyfriend, etc.

I wouldn't mind becoming fuck buddies with her, but I don't know if saying that directly is a good idea? I'm not interested in a long term relationship, but I do want sex, so should I just lie if it comes to that?


Thanks, I'll let you guys know how everything turns out!


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:28 pm 
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Alright, we met tonight. Here's what happened:

I met her at the station. I told her I needed to drop my stuff off, so we went to my place (holding hands!), I showed her my apartment, balcony, and huge alcohol selection which I think impressed her. She didn't seem to care too much about food, but we got some burritos to go and went back to my place to eat on my huge balcony. I made her an awesome cocktail (fuck, I feel like I was putting her on a pedestal way too much. romance is the exact wrong thing to do, right? how could I have handled that better? ) which we split into two glasses.

The sunset was nice and she really liked the view. In regards to my game, I tried to get some kino in at the Mexican place while we were waiting and while we were eating, but I couldn't figure out a way to effectively get closer in a way that would seem natural. I was able to do a little but not really escalate. In regards to our conversation, I kept it flowing and I think I was able to keep her from getting bored, but we just talked about normal stuff, hobbies, interests, normal AFC stuff I guess. I probably should have tried to put sexual innuendo somewhere?

Then we sat on my bed, and I wanted to make out with her but she was facing the other direction without really reacting to anything (I was kinoing her and touching her leg) and I couldn't make an opportunity appear. After kind of sitting there for a minute, she asked if I wanted to go outside and talk a walk around the neighborhood. I was like "Shit!" because I knew that if we did this, she would just go home and it would be over, so I quickly brought up the idea of watching a movie. She actually said okay to this, and I started up one of the ones I just bought (Gremlins).

But then she sat down in the middle of the bed, rather than lying down with her head against the back. After a while, I managed to get her to move back and then I kind of put my arm around her back and put my cheek against hers. After a while, I *finally* put together an opportunity to kiss her. She actually went along. She made out with me with a really open mouth as if she were trying to eat my face. She was not good at all, but I needed to just keep it going. I kept upping the kino and kissing her. A little later when I put my hand near her crotch she said something along the lines of "definitely not" in the sense that she didn't want to have sex tonight.

But we kept making out and I tried my best to stimulate by kissing her neck and ears, caressing her all over, etc. She seemed to like it and I felt like she wanted to keep going, but she was pretty reluctant with the breast area and definitely didn't want to have sex. I tried to escalate as well as I could, but she wanted to leave because she has to wake up early for work tomorrow (this is actually true). I tried my best, but we eventually ended it without sex. She said she wants to hang out again, and I believe her, but I can't say totally for sure whether we would actually go all the way next time. We walked around a little bit, we walked back to the station, and she left.

Also, one possibility I was thinking for why she was rejecting sex: maybe she is on her period? I have had girls before who rejected sex despite wanting it because they were on their periods. This time, I can't confirm for sure, and anyway I am confident I screwed up a few times. Oh well, at least we made out.

Anyway if you guys have any tips or feedback to give me (I am still a newbie PUA), I would appreciate it. Thanks.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:51 pm 
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For your previous post: if you have no emotional ties to this girl - try to use evasive answers which sound like what she wants to hear but really has little or no meaning at all.

Q - "Do you have a girlfriend?", A - "I have many all over the world - soon i'll have enough to make an army"

Q - "What kind of girls do you like?", A - "I saw my dream girl in a magazine once.. ahh, what was that magazine called.. Playboy! that's it!, yea, I like those types - but I have an especially soft spot for chicks like you"

Q - "Do you love me?", A - "The real question is, do you love me?" "Well, today I feel just the same"

..If you do have emotional ties to the girl, just say the truth - just don't go all AFC about it.


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Good progress yesterday. However, one of the sticking points that is clear to see is that you still anticipate sex waaay too much; and it defiantly will reflect in the way your body language without you knowing it.

In your first post, you wrote that you wanted a casual sex partner, which is fine - but there are realistically a few ways of going about it. One of the ways is very much up to the way you read people, if she is the type of person that is up for casual sex, then it is something you could bring up (not after sex.), but more as something over a few drinks.. like "have you ever had a casual partner" - talking about past experiences and say how great they were.

There is also a fact to keep in mind: You're more likely to have more casual sex with someone if you - yourself are a great shag. A woman isn't going to stay with a guy for regular rutting if you can't make her climax. When you have sex with her for the first time - gauge yourself on how much she wants it again. and again.

Another equally effective way that could be more suitable is to try and push a threesome. When out in town, it is quite easy to get chatting to some bi-curious women that would be happy to share your girlfriend. Having been there myself - the morning after a three-way, you and your woman will look at each other in a different way. That's all it could take to make it more casual thing, or even making her eager for more three-ways. Either way. not bad.

Now - talk of casual sex is something to hold out till the the future. Having not has sex with her yet, you might not even want her afterwards. Don't think i'm crazy, but not all sex is good sex.. and casual sex should be great sex.. no?

1) As far as making her drinks (you write how you feel like you put her on a pedestal), I would taught her how to make a killer cocktail then get her to make one - if she fucks up, tease her a little - and move on. The pedestal theory is more for relative to a target you've just met / opened. E.g. If you start sarging a girl at a bar and start using phrases like "I just had to talk to you - you're just so beautiful" - it usually ends up being counter productive because you're putting the prize psychologically out of reach and telling her shit AFC's tell her all the time.

2) Don't watch "Gremlins" with your dates unless she specifically wants to, I know it's quite funny, but there isn't anything sexy about Gremlins.

3) You didn't freeze out. It's very effective and probably would have gotten some results in this particular scenario.

Otherwise, some chicks just don't put out on the first date - you could be doing everything right, but it's just not something they don't do when sober - it's just a personal conduct. She probably wasn't on her period. She just didn't want to put out - and then think you'll loose interest, it's a stupid clique that some girls believe. You're just going to have to be a little bit patient - and be cool about it. (However, it doesn't have to stop you sarging around for ONS)

Keep doing what you're doing, and you'll get laid. Make her cum - and you'll get laid even more.

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Wow, fantastic advice, thanks a lot!!

And yea, I got Gremlins because I didn't have any movies and found it for cheap at the store, haha (plus it's a good movie). Do you have any movie suggestions just for the sake of getting laid?


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I have just the one: "Vicky Christina Barcelona".

2 American women get involved with a Spanish artist/sex machine. Then this guys ex-wife joins the party - 3 ways, lesbian action, a some casual cheating on spouses - all along the Spanish Riviera.

Tastefully erotic.

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I would have skipped going to the restaurant. You said she didn't seem interested in food once you showed her your place. Or you should have made drinks before you left for food... which you probably wouldn't have picked up. ;)

I also would have told the her to pick up the food on her way over because I picked up the alcohol and movie. Skip the restaurant trip together, just more time for BS and to kill the vibe.


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