Go through normal game and at some point of time ask her if she's adventurous and when she says yea!!! then you can just say something like "I can tell" or whatever. Anyways yea that's the canned part but then towards then end you say something like "You said your adventurous right?" she says "YESS" then you say ok can I barrow you for a second. She pretty much has to say yes otherwise she isn't adventurous and if she asks why then just say "you'll see" and smile. Then when your with her say "Ok so *wingman or whoever* said I have to go soon but I wanted to find out if you were really adventurous or if you were lying" when shes like "ok how?" or whatever you can either go straight in for the kiss if you got the IOI's or your unsure or not bold enough you could say "Are you a good kisser?" "yes" "prove it" and then you go in right there. I know this isn't 100% mine but I just thought of it a couple minutes ago and I plan on trying it but I wanted to hear what other people thought about it first. Thoughts?

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I really like it.

I'd personally have to calibrate with the different girls. But Its also good I think for a first date kiss too.

Well I'm going down to the boardwalk this summer and I'm always trying to think of new strategies and I want to know which ones work so feel free to respond to this thread once you try it to let me know how it turned out haha

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Nothing in pick up applies to all women. There's no such thing as rejection... they're just playing hard to get.

Making a kiss close verbal is less effective than just doing it.

you see, you're putting too much emphasis on the kiss. If the girl just scents some bit of needyness, you're out.

If you want to kiss a girl, just put your arm around her, drag her in and just do it.

Fancy kiss-close routines tend to shoot yourself in the foot, you are seeking some kind of confirmation to kiss her. And a real 'alpha' wouldn't do that.

This is similar to swing cats one
I had to do this for the first time in like forever ! the other day when this shy girl was making it too hard for me to lead up to the kiss naturally so i just did it and it worked but i prefer the natural way .

Jav.. I agree the being verbal is less effective at times. But I just thought this was a ballsy thing to actually say to a girl and she would be more into that aspect of the close rather than me being needy for approval. Also if your in a situation like Zappo using a routine like this could help. :D

Zappo.. Does swing cat have a thread of what his version of this was?

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Sorry to be a Killjoy but I think the whole thing's a bit silly - will have to agree with Jav on this one.

It's almost as if you're too scared/lame/beta to kiss normally and naturally, instead you have to con her into using this 'adventurous' tactic. It's like, ooh, but you have to kiss me because you're adventurous! All comes from a needy frame.

Kissing is not a 'close'. It's a natural extension of seductive interaction.

This is not alpha, it's beta. It's only bold because it's uncalibrated, which is not a good way to be bold.

Still, I guess it's a good routine to use until you become natural and internalise the body language for kissing. Yeah, the adventurous thing is Swingcat's line.

Rafiel Gamble... The more I think about the routine the more I agree with you and Jav. Like this seems like a K-Close when your unsure if you had solid game but like tonight I didn't need to use any shit like this to K-Close my target.

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^that's awesome man, respect

Rafiel.. haha thanks man, that's why we're on this site right? :D

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sounds like it would work on some girls depending on the scene