Haha, that won't work in here Cross.... we know what kind of guys brag about how much ass they get. If you're going to have a pissing contest, try it with your little brother. But we can see right through that shit in here.

I like clubs in Mexico or Thailand much better. Call 'em what you like. But you certainly don't need a book to pick up a hot babe. Just a few bucks and the skills you were born with.

The girls just hang out or line up. There's no guessing games, and no lack of communication.

They look and smile at you if they like you, you buy her a beer and hang out. She tells you the price and it's off to the races. Some bars even have motels attached.. That's why the bartenders tend to be multi lingual. The older adults in the place help you. There's always an older guy as bartender, and an older lady around to help translate, etc...

The situation in U.S. bars is exploitative and idiotic by comparison.

Now for you guys who think the stuff isn't as good. I'm here to tell you you're mistaken. I once had a blonde Spanish girl I picked up in a bar along the border in Juarez (across the border from El Paso), and she's one of the best looking babes I've ever been with. Tender, full figured body, copper colored skin, perfect tits and sweet as an apple poon (no shyt). She was about 19 or 20 and a college student. She was every bit a 9.9. The real kicker, she didn't speak a lick of English and I don't speak Spanish. We didn't have a problem. One thing that struck me was she was very selective, very intelligent and never would allow herself to get drunk. I suppose this was her way of working her way through school in a place with few decent jobs.

Call her a whore if you like, but I've pulled much worse from bars up here in the states.

The cost for the evening? A couple of beers and $20. One of my better dates. You go international you need to learn to think outside the box. You might find like I did you like it much better. Perfect for the guy on the go.

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David must have bore witness to his Mom slapping his Daddy around for not having Dinner ready when she got home.......Now he vows to end the cycle of violence good for u man

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LOL!!!
That and he wants to remove the cycle of wearing pink panties that has plagued all the men in his family for generations.

David u have a beta male mentality

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Look guys, seriously.. If you're woman aint paying your bills, you're doing something wrong..

Too many successful women out there to go around without having to play that old fashioned shyt. Especially once you get a few years under your belt.

You can learn alot from women. Learn to emulate them. They been getting over on you for years, and going to school while you been working you way to nowhere, serving in the military, facing down communism/terrorism, etc... Payback's a bitch.

Now seriously, if you need a girl that works at the bowling alley or Wal Mart, etc.. so you can feel like a man I feel sorry for you. And if you need one to sit on her ass manufacturing child after child more power to you. Just aint my cup of tea.

A little advice. Keep your dick in your pants more than you take it out. Always use protection. And resist the urge to get married to the first regular piece of ass that comes along, and interview your dates like you own a investment banking company and you need a new CFO. You definitely want a woman with a future.

That is unlike you like 5 kids, 3 jobs and a woman that sits on her ass all the time and wants everything in sight but you.

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David ur a Genius how did u managed to piss of not 1 but 2 women in the same post.

Man ur a Master PUA

BIIIIIIOOOOOOOTTTTTTCCCCHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

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HEY GUYS, EVERYBODY SHUT UP!!!!!!!. jesus christ, were p.u.a.'s for christ sake, we joined to get away from assholes that fight. don't diss anyone on their opinion in here, all you do with opinions is turn them into openers.

MODERN DAY PROSTITUTION BLAH BLAH BLAH. No paying for a girl is what guys have been doing for thousands of years thats not a girl being a whore it's just a girl being a girl. Buddy I know what your talking about women sometimes take advantage of their assets but so does everyone. If you can why not take advantage? If it makes life easier and more rewarding for you. I think your missing the objective of meeting a good match for YOU! Thats the point of all this shit. That is why we play this "game" so we can have rewarding relationships and make women happy. If it's not about that and improving yourself then you have other things to focus on personally.

Oh I just had to have an opinion on this whole 'Modern day dating is prostitution' issue.

To do this I will present a scenario.
I go out, hit the local dive, down a few pints and realise that no girl will be taking me home tonight. I havent got laid in a while so I decide to hit up the local brothel and check their selection. Money changes hands and I am presented with sex. Maybe a little conversation. "teehee your such a big strong funny man" for example. And then I leave.

Second scenario:
I meet a nice girl at a club I frequent, we exchange numbers and agree to meet later. We decide to meet the following friday night at a lounge on the waterfront. I buy the first round of drinks and she insists on buying the second. We build a rapport, enjoy each others company and have a good time. After a few hours she agrees to come back to my place and watch a movie and one thing leads to another.

Now tell me. Is there any similarites between these two scenarios besides from the end result?

If somebody can find some distinct similarity that could compare dating to prositution, I will wholeheartedly agree with them.

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"This brings us to dating, a global enterprise more profitable than the oil industry, steel industry, and the GDP of China combined."

I'd like to see the data....


"clusterfucking the natural order" LMAO!!!!!!!

I'm going to use that as an approach:

"Hi excuse me, you appear to be clusterfucking my natural order, do you mind?"

Absolutely not.... unfortunately, if we look at the norms of society, the scenerio #2 is what I wish modern dating consisted of. But it isn't. If you disagree, then perhaps your part of the country has come a long way in recent years.

The modern man is pathetic. He feels that the better he performs, the nicer the gift he buys her, and the more he can compliment a woman, the more she will like him. Even women claim this is what they go for. But they react to an entirely different type of guy.


..... on another note, this thread is getting ridiculous. The point was not to espouse a misogynistic view of women. Men are as much to blame (if not more so) than women. The objective was to point out the misconceptions men have about what women want. And that if men were to follow the scheme of your typical women's magazine, then they would be voluntarily succumbing to a form of prostitution. Cross, and whoever else, we apparently disagree about something (although Mystery himself has made similar comments about AFCs). But whatever it may be, this is getting counterproductive. If you have something personal against me, then so be it.... neither of our feelings are hurt. But the flamethrowing is not productive, and its not what we're here for.
You should man.... I have them eating out of my hand with that gem.. haha

Easylover - I cannot look at your posts because of your avatar..... I keep licking my screen....



Actually this is not really a locial argument from either party as you're both talking about different things so in a way you are both right.

I'll break it down for you:

Dating = wife + kids + happy families - plutonic sex - divorce - expenses - school & handbag fees

Not dating = wild sex + booze + multiple partners + PUA community (i didn't forget about you guys) - VDs - lonely deathbed.

It really depends which you prefer....

If you've ever studied economics, its where your marinal propenisty for sex = marginal cost of sex on your budget line. or something like that...

EasyLover . . . I agree with: "David u have a beta male mentality"

I'm sorry david, because this may be offensive to you, but my perception of you is that you are an AFC yourself. It says you live in Paris TN. I've lived in KY near that area myself, so I know what the area is like. I know live in Indiana. The way you talk about how dating IS in this part of the country, is only true for AFC's. Sorry man, but ONLY the AFC's that I know treat women that way, and NO, it doesn't work for them when you look at the big pic. Sure, they may get lucky once in a GREAT WHILE, but then it's usually cause the girl is desperate or severely horny for some reason. Maybe he got lucky enough to get her that drunk, but still it's the AFC's that buy the stuff for them in hopes of getting somewhere.

Geez, do you even listen to the teachings of any of the major PUA's?

Temujin . . . "Dating = wife + kids + happy families - plutonic sex - divorce - expenses - school & handbag fees

Not dating = wild sex + booze + multiple partners + PUA community (i didn't forget about you guys) - VDs - lonely deathbed."

While I know that you are trying to make a point here, you do have it slightly wrong. At least, not ALL marriages have boring sex, lol. I know, cause I'm a part of one that has WILDDDDDDD sex. And yes, I am also a PUA because we like to have girls join us.

""Hi excuse me, you appear to be clusterfucking my natural order, do you mind?"" LMAO . . . so cool! I love it!

And as far as the "second scenario" thing about dating . . . in my personal experience, that IS the way dating is, at least if you're NOT an AFC. I should know. I've got a girl doing it right now . . .

Best. Opener. Ever.


But on a more serious note, David has merely presented a view of the world, he has not indicated at all whether he is any good at pick up or not, so stop making silly assumptions. Secondly arguing against someones character is not what we are here for unless they say something ridiculously stupid.

And L.A Temujinn said 'Plutonic sex' not boring sex. Although, I do wonder where sex involving rock formations within the earths crust gets fun?

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No I meant having sex on pluto.

arggghh......rumbled.