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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:46 pm 
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this was probably discussed before but i couldn't find anything so here's my story...

i've been going out a lot ever since i was 15 (24 now) and out of all my friends i get approached by girls the most, in high school i was the school qb so that got me a lot of attention from girls and yet i end up getting less dates then any of them especially when it comes to girls i want not the ones that want me 1st if that makes sense
a lot of times when we are at a bar one of my friends will start talking to a group of girls and most of the time i will get 1 that starts talking to me and i still end up getting nowhere most of the time

now i have no problems keeping a conversation under normal circumstances, i have female friends that i can talk to for hours just fine but when it comes to girls i am actually interested in i absolutely freeze (unless i'm totally drunk but not the point) .. i guess i've relied on girls coming up to me for so long that i just never developed any kind of game and now i seem to have a lot of approach anxiety as i just never bothered to approach girls in high school, bars, etc because of this

ideally i would like to be able to come upto girls i'm interested in rather then just improve my game with girls that hit on me first but either would be great at this point
bottom line is i just can't break this thing .. any suggestions on what i can do besides the obvious of just walk up and start talking because i just can't seem to get myself to do it no matter how many times i tell myself "whats the worst that can happen" blah blah blah


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:09 pm 
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I'm just starting out but it seems like you need help opening. If you go to the Mystery Method's website they have 2 free chapters out of the newest book and one of them is on openers. Also pay attention to the 3-second rule. This states that you must approach a woman within 3 seconds of seeing her. What this does is eliminates thinking about it and freezing yourself out from a set.

Aside from that just read read read read. There's loads of stuff on the internet and two books I hear you should definitely get are The Game by Neil Strauss and The Mystery Method by Mystery.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:48 pm 
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reading about the game can def help you down the road, and there is countless material on the web, but the most important thing for you is PRACTICE. Even if you learn 100s of openers and routines, you ll still be intimidated to use them the first time.
So my advice to you is just go out in a social setting (club/bar/pub) on a busy night and just SET YOURSELF A GOAL of how many girls you ll approach (i suggest starting with 20/30) that night. And at first just worry about the quantity, not quality... fat/ugly chicks are fine (they always have hot friends) and you won't be intimidated by them so they ll be perfect practice.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:13 pm 
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reading about the game can def help you down the road, and there is countless material on the web, but the most important thing for you is PRACTICE. Even if you learn 100s of openers and routines, you ll still be intimidated to use them the first time.
So my advice to you is just go out in a social setting (club/bar/pub) on a busy night and just SET YOURSELF A GOAL of how many girls you ll approach (i suggest starting with 20/30) that night. And at first just worry about the quantity, not quality... fat/ugly chicks are fine (they always have hot friends) and you won't be intimidated by them so they ll be perfect practice.
damn i'm definitely gonna hear it from my friends about the fat/ugly chicks but i'll try .. thing is to this point i've only been able to go upto random girls when i was drunk i need some damn hypnosis or something to get this block outa me


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:57 pm 
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hey man, i TOTALLY understand wat your saying. I used to be just the same, only able to walk up to girls when i was wasted. The downside of this is that you can make some costly mistakes if you do get the girl (beer goggles anybody?) or if you get a phone # you won't remember anything about the girl anyways. Just think of it as a drill: go to the bar dead sober and don't let anything stop you until you reach your goal. That way, whether you get rejected or no, you r still making progress so it s no big deal.

One last thing about your friends. I bet that most of your friends who will make fun of you for trying are those AFCs that sit at the bar all night, talking about the girls but never actually talking TO the girls. This happened to me last friday, which was my first night back in my hometown and after I got a couple quick rejections my old high school AFC friends started to make fun of me. However, by the end of the night, after I approached 20+ HBs, danced with most of the HBs in the place, #-closed with a couple hotties and just had so much FUN, these guys were asking me if i could help their game!

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Hey now fat/ugly girls need love too!


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:22 am 
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No they don't. That's a fallacy. The fat girls find solace in food and the ugly girls find solace in romance novels.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:03 pm 
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No they don't. That's a fallacy. The fat girls find solace in food and the ugly girls find solace in romance novels.
hahaha thats funny as hell dude!


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Very true.
Oh so very true.

lol.


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