Erm...

Well how do you dress/ present yourself?

Is there someone, a film character, a guy on the tv, a sports star, a rock star that you really admire their image?

Why not just change one little thing about you appearance.

You'll feel diffferent, and while you are working on your inner game it's a good shortcut because people will view you a little bit differently.

So example, a month or so ago I had scruffy hair (couldn't get it cut, working all the time)
I don't want to go out sarging hating my hair (brings you down)

So I was watching that Film "The Girl next door", you know it?

So I check out the guy who is the bad ass, get some strong hair wax, put my hair like his.
BINGO instant atitude
Add leather jacket and pointy cowboyish boots


Girls notice details, ti can be something as simple as a bracelet

Scamps

You're in the friend zone, and you need to get out. The best way to do this is to completely redesign yr image, so that the next time she sees you it's like meeting a stranger. Total reboot.

I second guapo's advice on the fedora. in my experience bitches DIG a white guy in a fedora (think k fed). try this outfit on:

- fedora
- goggles, maybe steampunk goggles (lot of conversation possibilities)
- a funny t-shirt, and a necktie that MATCHES your fedora
- a belt with a HUGE buckle
- just short jeans and tevas down below, that doesn't matter because the business is upstairs

you can slap this together for like $20 easily. let me know how it turns out, and STAY CONFIDENT!

god bless,
slick

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"hanging out and having a blast with my bros" - thats what i always say

"Yet each man kills the thing he loves
By each let this be heard." - oscar wilde

Ok.

What you did very right: did something at all, instead of AFC do-nothing crap.

What you did right: did a decent job with your routines. You had them down like pat, so remembering things was apparently not a problem.

What you did wrong: most stuff except the aforementioned. Honestly man, this is one problem that MM'ers run into: if a routine fails, shit hits the fan if you don't have 3 other ones off the top of your head that can quickly fix the situation.

To fix the situation... Yeah, that's more effort than it's worth. Go after other women. I would personally ignore her.

To improve your game in general, just make sure that your routines have the right vibe, if you plan to use routines at all. Or you could also just work up a natural gaming method of your choice.

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Don't hate, just dominate.

I see what you guys are getting at now . But do I have to do this every time I get put into the FriendZone™? How deep in the zone do I have to be for this to be effective?

What we're telling you about ident switching and rebooting and fedoras is for worst case scenarios (i.e. yours). You shouldn't be getting Friend Zoned constantly, that's AFC shit.

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"hanging out and having a blast with my bros" - thats what i always say

"Yet each man kills the thing he loves
By each let this be heard." - oscar wilde

A little image redesign never hurt anyone-- if yours isn't already good, however.

The fedoras and all could be really good for you... or they might not be. Don't do any adjustment that doesn't fit your personality. Otherwise you just seem incongruent and it gets you out of wack.

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Don't hate, just dominate.

Did anyone say shiny shirt yet? Maybe a wig. It's like you're on an assembly line... with a bunch of data entry guys at the helm. Just... make sure you like how it looks, 'kay? Have you even talked to the girl in question since your mediocre kamikaze mission? I already called that she's going to be in avoidance mode, right?

Havnt really talked to her since. I think I left like one or two comments on her facebook, but yeah, I havn't initiated any real attempts at communication with her. Just came back from a trip and got 2 really sick looking hats, one is suave and the other one is kinda crazy (in a mystery sort of way). I've learned a bit more since I first posted this, namely while it is important to have balls and courage, you also need to have the right tactics to back it up, and contingency plans if the first one fails. I could still have a relationship with this girl if I had simply kept my frame for a few seconds more and said "You wish' in response to her asking me if I was going in for the kiss. If I happen to see her going about my life, I'll just pretend like it didn't happen, and approach from scratch.

Yeah, she sounded like she was firm in the whole friends only thing. I would say just move on. Getting stuck on her and looking desperate isn't going to help your situation with the other girls in this group. Let her quit and just move on. (change up your routine just in case.)

Done and done. Thank you all for all of your helpful suggestions.For those that suggested I change up my style, I got some awesome hats from when I was out of the country, I'm already seeing results on cold-approaches
. Thank you all again.