I am finally getting to the place where I am meeting and attracting women, but I am also good at figuring out ways to ruin the possibilities with them as well.

One of my problems is being needy... I have come a long way to fight my urges of neediness and it has improved my game, but a lot of the time I just feel like some of the women I talk to are not as interested as I am. I can play the non needy guy for a while, but there comes a point where I breakdown and let them know that basically i need some more attention or we are done (basically my way of saying are you interested or not, I hate being lead on).

However, each time I do that, I jump the gun and get into trouble with them... These aren't women that i am trying to make my girlfriend, I just want there to be a balance of interest and it seems like that is hard to find, even if I have already made out with them. However, if I lower my expectations of what to expect from these women then I would probably have a much better chance with them. It is just really difficult for me to find a balance.

There seems to be a point where I can't take the game playing any more and I have to take a break and be honest with them...

Yeah you and me both for sure brother.

However I know the actual answer to this question and ironically I still find it hard to follow because when I get a girl into me and Im into her my mind just says '' ok your good she likes you...''

But dont stop gaming multiple girls, this way you ( shall I say we....) are distracted from this single girl and are seen by her as less needy. Try to get one or more girls for each night of the week to spend your time with.

Not only does this convey mystery and less neediness the girls will soon be technically be fighting to win YOU over.

(now if only I can practice what I preach......)

Haha, glad there are some other people making the same mistakes as me! And I actually am following your advice, but that only truly started about a week ago, so I am still trying to work out the kinks... However, I think I am finally improving!

What are you waiting for? : )

I know what you mean. You also sound like a thinker like me.

So this is what I do. Know that when you brake down, this is your brains way of telling you, 'You are not an alpha male.' Anything that you do to stop you from getting to the girl, be that too much info, or realness. It's just your brain thinking you are not Alpha and there for you shouldn't breed and there for you need to show the tribe that you are not Alpha. Understand?

Are you going to let your brain boss you around?

i really like the previous post.

as to the original post, I think there might be some confusion about what "needy" means. Here is how I look at it:

wanting a woman to nurture you and fill in holes in your self esteem = NEEDY and CODEPENDENT.

Thats the bad shit. If you are feeling that, you are still needy.