this question is mainly for the Brits but anyone can answer

ok dont get me wrong were not some backwards victorian people (anymore)
but i have noticed that while most girls act like your average steryotypical HB boyfriends, flirting etc

I often come across really attractive (HB 6 to 10) girls that act very immature but not in a bitchy way, as in they enjoy all the crazy fun loving activities

these chicks rarely if ever have boyfriends and seem just as clueless about relationships and or pick up as the average AFC guy despite being a HB 6 to 10

so my question is this just a (BRITISH) trend or worldwide
and does it mean that (not always) HBs are just as confused and worried by relationships etc?

What do you mean "acting immature"? Can you give a few more examples?

I know exactly what he means; and I am going to attempt to describe the situation by completely oversimplifying!

Many, many women in Britain have almost no social and/or sexual confidence and try to cover it up by acting like goofy children most of the time. And let's be honest, with women acting like goofy children and most of the guys in the UK being complete AFC's... nobody is actually doing much seducing of anyone, except in utterly retarded and drunken ways - which never really works out for any parties involved, unless they get lucky.

And in the UK it's mostly the women that are the sexual hunters - I mean that too. Most guys that I know either aren't getting any at all or they're only getting some because their girls have finished 'having their fun' and have now decided to 'settle down' with them, who is now stuck with her used up and bitter arse. Yeah, there are exceptions, but I really do mean it when I say that women are the hunters and only a few guys are really benefiting from it by getting all the action.

So... you've got loads of single, intelligent and attractive girls that aren't out hunting down their "Alpha's" with their girlfriends because they don't really have the foggiest idea how, and most of them just want to meet a guy to settle down with anyway - but only with a guy that can actually make them get wet. And because most guys are complete fucking useless chumps who only get laid with the assistance of a shitload of al-key-mo-hol and luck, or everyone elses leftovers...

Well, I'm not complaining - I love girls like that. And if you're a decent guy, and they like you, AND you want a permanent thing... they're total keepers.

i totally agree....llap

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life sucks and then you die! deal with it

similar in Ireland----over here i think Most decent Girls dont go out and dont know how to

There are loads of hot girls in the clubs and a few nice ones do attend them --and usually sit around like Afbs because they dont know how to socialise

The thing about the Irish club scene is that most of the hot girls are with scumbags BUT when you really look deeper at the same girls they are for the most part scummers themselves---The Truth about Ireland now is that the only people who can afford to drink and club are the long term unemployed who never worked even when there was a booming economy.

Now Day game is a different kettle of fish and you can meet in tea shops and uni the nice HBs that wouldnt darken the door of the nighclubs

nailed it, thanks for translating

LOL Wow, and I though we Yanks had it bad over here. It's a free magazine subscription....issues for everyone!

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Very interesting!

Im a guy from Singapore and just opened on two British HBs (8-9) tourists last week. I do mainly day games. They came across as open, friendly, but abit shy, probably those more intelligent and attractive girls u are talking about.

Well, Adam Lyons said," Every girl is different. Those who told u that all girls are same are trying to get something from u."

PUA is barely in its infancy stage in Asia and I'm modeling mainly from the British style. I think it has a more conservative culture when it comes to approaching compared to U.S and probably work better in East Asia. Before I knew anything about pick up my favourite celebrity was Derren Brown and was interested in magic and NLP. I picked up some DB style of talking unconsciously.

My experience of Brit women is that there are the really shy girls who basically hardly go out, and when they do, it doesn't really suit them. You know book worms. But on the other hand, are the outragously crazy party girls, who go into town three times a week, and get fuckin rat arsed. All my female mates basically have specific nights where they always go out, no matter what.

As icewalker did, to completely over simplify; I think alot of men in Britain are culturally cocky funny with women. And I think women find it more ejoyable to be around, not only that but women feel more safe, which could explain the immaturity maybe.

I'm British, I live in Essex.

I understand that almost everyone has self-confidence issues, body issues, social anxieties, and gaps in knowledge and experience when it comes to interacting with other human beings-

But my God, British women seem to make an art form out of it.
I totally agree with the comments made here.

My last serious gf had awful confidence and self esteem issues despite being beautiful and completing a biology degree. My mother doesn't believe she can do anything right despite being very artistic. I currnently work in a generic woman dominated office environment I am just surrounded by it every day.

I'm not perfect, I have plenty of self doubt and emotional repression that I am attempting to get past, but for these girls (and women) it is like a crippling disease, which means they rarely grow up even by the time they have children themselves which is always really sad to see.

They seriously believe (almost like a religion) that they are incapable of things, and that they are inferior. I have been looking into this and trying to find out if it is something to do with how we raise little girls in this country (do we discourage them from sports? Do we over-protect them? Do we not give them the same opportunities?) and it does make for interesting reading.

And yes they do drink / act wild to overcompensate for this. I personally find it unattractive (I am 23 and starting to find 'ladies' more attractive than 'girls', in terms of maturity and quality of company).

An interesting comparison, this year I spent a month in San Francisco (a wonderful time was had), and it was so refreshing to be surrounded by girls who actually have some self-belief, confidence, can hold a conversation without acting silly, and were comfortable with their sexual identity. I'm now thinking of studing my Masters Degree there!

Sorry to go on, but I feel this is a really interesting topic that requires attention.

words cannot describe how much i agree with this