Wasup guy's Karas here and this might make me sound a little clueless but,if I am to grow in the pickup art's and truly become good with woman the way I wish to be then,I must over come this hurdle.

Banter.Yes that's right the basic stuff,mid-game,fluff etc.The reason I ask is because,I think I'm showing signs of becoming a robot.Maybe it was just this one set I opened that went alright but,when I thought about it afterwards I notice that all I did was stack routines.I don't want to be all lines.

It was recently painstakingly revealed to me and my wing, 3 night's in a row that dance floor game is all but useless if the dj suck's.

In a way we were happy we learned that,even if it was the hard way because,it showed the kinks in our armor.I have to admit we were slightly avoiding basic conversational pickup because of how easy dance floor game seemed.I mean especially if you know how to dance. You can build a lot of attraction on the dance floor do heavy kino and then pull her to a couch to build comfort.

And I may be wrong but,it just seems like girls who are on the dance floor having fun are more open then the girls who are just standing around.

I will admit my biggest fear when it comes to pickup isn't rejection it's awkward silence.My wing gave me some useful advice and said,if it happened's just call her on it but,I don't want it to happened I freakin hate it.

So yes I have to get my conversation skills up.Any advice would be must appreciated.

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There is no such thing as failure only learning lesson's, and in life class is always in session.

Good focus. Keep with it
Banter? But that's the easy part...
Not necessarily basic, but...reading on...
No, you're thinking.
I knew it.

You're not a robot
You will not become a robot
You were never a robot.

It's a mind trick; you're learning a new way of thought, and your conditioned mind is resisting it. Drop the resistance; it's obviously not working at the moment.
Ok, NOW I understand your predicament.
The routines are working for you, but you feel that there's more to the routines
you want to know about.

There is. You are ready to leap upwards to a higher dimension of NOW.
Here's what you need to focus on, as of NOW:

Everything is made up of two things: Something, and NOT something; A and Not A, Do or Do NOT, Electrons and NOT Electrons.

One, or NOT one.

Example: 1st Place in a Street Race. You either got 1st place, or NOT 1st place.

If you didn't get 1st place, you got 2nd place, or 3rd place, or nth place, or you died in a crash, or your car lost a wheel, or 2 wheels, or all 4, or you peed your pants and swerved off the road, or some naked chick walking on the sidewalk was fingering herself on a park bench, you looked, and drove into a signpost, destroying your car, or Jesus came and struck lighting on your sorry soul for doing illegal street racing activities, or...

...infinite possibilities. Either that...

OR, just get 1st place. If you got 1st, then you got 1st, and everything is well.


EVERYTHING in this world...is either it, or NOT it. If you understand that, as of NOW, EVERYTHING is either IT...or NOT IT...you can connect the dots.

Why do the routines work? There are infinite reasons. You have to work backwards to find the root of IT, and the ROOT...of IT...is the IT...that WORKS the BEST. What WORKS...the BEST...(pay attention).

...is simply what GETS YOU WHAT YOU WANT!

What aspect of routines gets you WHAT YOU WANT? Does that aspect WORK for you? Can you CONNECT WHAT WORKS to everything in life. Is not everything all ATOMS?

...as of now, think on that, but STAY IN THE MOMENT.
Don't drift off; stay in the NOW.
Ok, so "Dance Floor Game" DOESN'T WORK.
Find a route that DOES WORK.
The learning process WORKED.
See, connections...
Doesn't matter how easy it SEEMED. Does "Dance Floor Game" WORK? Apparently, it DIDN'T. So DROP IT.
It didn't work.
If you find a way to make it work, do it. Until then, don't think on it, and stay in the moment.
Wrong.

Girls on the dance floor just want to DANCE. For them, it's a competition of sorts, like when guys strut their shit for girls. They dance for us (And to make other chicks jealous. Women...)

The easier girls are the ones AT THE BAR, drinking. They're open for attack.
I have the cure for this: Stop thinking when you encounter akward silence. Say ANYTHING. Talk about soap if you need to.

Save the vibe. Silence is death. Silence precedes the death of the MOMENT. The death of the moment = Thinking outside the moment. Thinking outside the moment = GAME OVER.
Your wing is an idiot. Don't call her on it.
Save the vibe.
1)Stop Thinking
2)Stop Thinking
3)Stop Thinking.

Live IN THE MOMENT.

Realize, as of now...

...80% of your problems are caused by thinking outside the moment.

You're doing good. Keep practicing.

4)Put 100% faith in PUA skills
5)Practice, Practice, Practice
6)STAY IN THE MOMENT, RIGHT NOW.

...You will be ok. Keep at it.

Thank's a lot man.Not only did you respond but,you broke down my whole post.
Your right, maybe I am thinking to much and I could just say whatever I wan't if awkward silence ever rears it's ugly head again.Through my journey's of the game I learned that if you have the confidence to back it up,you can say damn nearly anything and get away with it.

So thank's again.One more thing my wing's not a idiot,he's just on the same path of learning as me and he's going through the experimenting stages of learning the game.
He's actually the analyzer of our little group.

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There is no such thing as failure only learning lesson's, and in life class is always in session.

For conversation check out Bobby Rio in Make Small Talk Sexy. He does a pretty good job about explaining conversation...

And Rune...

Seriously that was awesome! Some Confucius shit if I ever saw it man. If I have a posted question please find me and add your advice.