Alright to clarify im not racist in any way , you will understand what im doing in a moment

Im white English and my 2 friends ( or wings if you must) are Chinese English

ME Hey , can you help us out ? .... me and my friends have been arguing over who has the darker tan all of us hold out arms

At this point she usually chooses one of my Chinese friends , at this point we all look at each other in shock and horror and say Racist

at this point the girl doesn't know what the fxck just happened and is now qualifying herself as not being racist and basically doesn't know what to do .

We then relieve the tension by laughing it off and just escalating from there



what i believe psychologically happens there is , girl sees a group of guys approaching ,goes into resistance mode , but what happens is we remove all of that by making her shit herself (for a few seconds) make her qualify herself ( this is important i believe, if you believe race is an issue in picking up , which it isn't!) and then we make her laugh it off by being playful with her

another spin on it is if one of my Chinese friends does the same routine and calls her a racist and then points at me and says

its not his fault hes English

Field tested and boy does it work as a opener and a routine . But remember be playfull at the end otherwise this is mean , us white folk don't like being called racist in this over politically correct world .

Too obvious. It is clear that you have planned it beforehand. I mean, of course she is gonna pick the chinese guy. And if you ask the question, you have to be retarded if you cannot see that it is what she is gonna answer and become upset.

She will not think, what the fuck just happened.

She will think... Ok, L A M E... Go and play your little games somewhere where someone cares.

She will not qualify herself because you have no value for her, it is still A1 and you havent built any attraction yet. She has no reason to care what a random guy, obviously setting a trap for her btw, would think of her. She is a girl. The club has a hundred other guys that are not trying to be cool by busting her balls the first thing they do. In fact there are a hundred guys who doesnt immediately make her feel either annoyed or in the rare case that she cares, make her feel awkward.

Not being a hater but since you choose to ask our opinion I am gonna be honest with you. I am trying to help you here man.

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I'm not trying to be a dick Ezo, but you're being a Pick Up Snob in my opinion.

bbardot: you just reminded me about porn

haha nah im cool with it , i respect opinions , its got us a few laughs.

i forgot to mention, we mention that were colour blind . (We actually are) we always get into arguments over colours , this is how the routine developed.

It sounds like it has a lot of potential; although you're missing the definition of "qualifying herself", in this opener you are accusing her of being racist - which like you say, in politically correct Britain - is one of the cardinal sins.. It's not really qualifying if she is worried about being branded a racist.

Qualification by alienation isn't quite the aim of the game. An example of more text-book Qualification is:

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Illusionist: *mid-game* "hey, you know I play guitar right?? I would play you some but, I don't think if you're worthy enough to see my talent"
**(everyone loves a musician, it's got a slight neg by putting her beneath you - but having a reward to gain)

HB: "ooh!, oh yea? well I used to play violin when I was 11! (target is trying to find any evidence in herself that she can present to bring herself up in your social ranking), but I'd love to hear you play"..

Illusionist: "Well, I only serenate pretty girls" (pull her close)

HB: "and you don't think i'm pretty??!"

Illusionist: "let me think about that one.." (K-close)
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Qualification for reward. Not Qualification to prevent alienation - it puts her in a hostile mood as an initial feeling, especially because it is a premeditated trap and hasn't got substance for Seduction.

don't mean to be snooty, but attack openers rarely work..

-Illusionist

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"They were right when they said "just be yourself" they just never told you what "self" to be.." - Gunwitch

aye , your right about the qualifying thing when it comes to p.u.
I was qualifying about not being a racist and removing prejudice
And " yours and the "p.u. community" version of qualification is to qualify interest and reward.
I understand the difference

Im still gonna keep this as a routine , its just too funny too watch their shock and then the playful hitting after you remove the suspense and everyone can just laugh about it, as they realize what you just done to them.