For those in the know AFC Adam told his One on One Students that he only slept with 30 women.

In this video from AFC Adam skip to the 3:38 mark Adam admits "its about 30" when asked how many women he'd slept with. Whilst this was in February 2008 remember that AFC Adam Lyons was engaged to Amanda Torres only a month later in March 2008.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1IV0SWbvac[/youtube]

Interesting enough though a year later Adam was featured in The Sun Newspaper claiming he'd slept with 500 women.
The Sun News link http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fe ... R=Features

So that means that AFC Adam slept with 470 women between February 2008 and March 2008 or he cheated on his wife Amanda Torres Lyons whilst they were Married.

I don't wanna hate or anything but forward to 3:43..
I'll quote for you "I lost count at 30"
That is a big difference from "About 30"

AFC Adam is a really smart guy and I think he just chose his words carefully.

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-Chris Hart

This thread makes me laugh. Glad to see I'm not married to a man whore. Some things are better left vague.

Wow..
I definately wasn't expecting you to reply Amanda.
Tis true.. it is better left vague.

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Well there is a big jump between "I lost count at 30" and saying he slept with 500 women which he admitted in The Sun Newspaper Article here http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fe ... R=Features only the following year.

Like I said- to get to 500 women Adam Lyons would've needed to cheat on his wife.

So whilst MPUAs are allowed to exaggerate under UK Business Law (there is such a law as "hype" laws) teling outright lies to sell more bootcamps damages what little credibility PUA has.

Also I'm going to point out that in the same The Sun Article http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/fe ... R=Features
Adam claims to have slept with Super Models and Celebrities.

When I met him these "Super Models" turned out to be Junk Catalogue Models who were only 5 foot 5 and average looking (to be a professional Female model you need to be at least 5 foot 8 and stunning looking).

To give credit Adam did try his luck with a 6 foot tall Cosmopolitian Model who just walked out of their offices (and this whilst he was engaged to Amanda).
Of course this Cosmo Model turned him down flat (which is suprising as Adam has also claimed that "he can get any girls phone number")

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHpQPgEmm5U[/youtube]

Now I I have never seen any woman associated with Adam look anything like a professional model.

As for the "celebrity" he slept with- she is not what I would class as a celebrity.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzIH4eZPY-o[/youtube]

wow your arguments are so strong and they totally discredit adam lyons.

except not really. you sure are reaching a lot. go back to your dark lair of bitter mental masturbation that you call "PUA Hate."

wait, actually, no, i take that back. stay here and keep entertaining us lol

Wow look at the moderators "Chiefs" post count! 3615!

And he's teling me about mental masturbation...................

Wow, way to destroy your own argument by misquoting. 500 sounds like pure BS (unless hooking up is your primary job), but even if it was only 30, that's significantly more than the "average", which is 7 according to MSNBC. Next you're going to cry about the quality of his hook ups. Oh... you're already doing that.

Who cares. Either his advice and game are valid and help out true chumps, or they aren't and don't. The "score", which men and women always lie about anyway, is irrelevant. Worst you could say about the guy is that he's bad at counting. He lost track at 30, yet knows it must be around 500? Why the hell would you even keep track after 10 unless you have something to prove anyway?

Bare in mind though that even if it was 30 (providing Adam hadn't fudged the numbers of course).

Try and get your hands on AFC Adams PDF Document "Diary of a Pick Up Artist" from Attraction Explained.

I was sent this believing it was yet another one of AFC Adams FREE E-books he sends in his marketing e-mails.

Now another contradictory statement from Adam. He says that in High School someone wrote on the board that "Adam was least likely to get a girlfriend".
So what? You can interpret that as him saying he wasn't good with girls/women prior to so called Game but that isn't what he said.

In the E-book Adam confesses he had his first kiss aged 15 years old and that on his first forum post detailed on page 16 Relationships Jully 2006 that
"For the past ten years I have only been single for 9 Months tops. The longest of these relationships were 3 years and most of them were at least a year long".

Now I'm not avocating you search for this e-book as
a) to view this book you need to join Attraction Explained VIP section
b) Its proof you guys haven't got a leg to stand on (because there are many other admissions by AFC Adam which contradict what he teaches most guys)
Also because so called Game won't help Internet tough guy virgins like yourself who only post on PUA forums because you don't have any friends let alone girlfriends* (*that prospect for most guys on this forum is light years away).

For smart guys who are serious about learning what these PUAs are really about take Chief "I've got 3615 posts and sit on this forum all day because I have no friends" Moderator's advice and google PUAHATE.

BTW head over to the "bad bootcamp section" it may save you time and money.

So on a completely different note, don't you guys think it's sad when an AMOG can't celebrate another person's success? Instead they just focus themselves like an arrow and make little attempts to tear down guys that they see as a threat because they are sexually or financially successful (even if the guy seems like a totally likeable, non-threatening guy). It really does highlight a basic insecurity and frustration at their own middling successes. Don't they know they'd stop feeling like they're coming up short if they stopped measuring themselves against other guys?

But back on topic, I've posted something like 28 posts over the last 4 days on the PUA forums, is that how you know I'm virgin? Just curious what the numbers are, pirate.

Yer you need to take the time you spend hating and use it to discover what is making you so unhappy.

I find it funny when guys defend someone they have no affiliation with.

Why do you care?

Here's a theory. If AFC Adam is the scam this guy is telling to be, it'd mean a threat to your 'poo ah is be all, end all', it's common to get a strong believe in something that gives you positive results (I ain't blaming you). It's the same with the taliban declaring Jihads on anything that doesn't support their beliefs.


OH NOES MY REALITY ISN'T SHARED BY OTHERS, I MUST DEFEND IT
crash&burn.

When people get defensive over opinions it's usually due to low self-esteem and uncertainty.

Reflect->learn->Get over it.

I'm just not a fan of deconstructive negativity. This is a community, I'd definitely defend anyone that's here for advice, to learn, or to dispense wisdom, legitimately constructive purposes. Hate tends to be irrational (as demonstrated above) and is pointlessly wasteful.

"When people get defensive over opinions it's usually due to low self-esteem and uncertainty." And your source for this belief is? I doubt I'd find it in a psychology textbook. Anyway, good point, but "If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything."

i dont get why u guys have a thing with fucking so many women. it doesn't make u a better person.