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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 8:58 pm 
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I have already made out with this girl, but I want to move beyond kissing and as close to sex as I can get.

I use natural game, and I have a physical disability that can make physical escalation difficult at times. So, how could I quickly move things to more intimate level?

Any suggestions will be appreciated.


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Physically disabled how? When you say close to sex instead of sex, does that mean you're unable to perform? I don't mean to be rude, but it makes a difference in answering your question, otherwise we just might offer useless advice, like "hip check her onto the nearest bed". Depending on the extent of your disability, you might need a girl that is naturally physically dominant.


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Physically disabled how? When you say close to sex instead of sex, does that mean you're unable to perform? I don't mean to be rude, but it makes a difference in answering your question, otherwise we just might offer useless advice, like "hip check her onto the nearest bed". Depending on the extent of your disability, you might need a girl that is naturally physically dominant.
I have quadriplegia, hence the wheelchair I am sitting in, in the photo.

The sex isn't the problem. I am asking about how to escalate it to ensure that I have sex with her and not get LMR. In other words, what should I do to go from kissing to fucking?

P.S. I will report what happens tonight; she is coming over at 3:30 p.m. : )


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Physically disabled how? When you say close to sex instead of sex, does that mean you're unable to perform? I don't mean to be rude, but it makes a difference in answering your question, otherwise we just might offer useless advice, like "hip check her onto the nearest bed". Depending on the extent of your disability, you might need a girl that is naturally physically dominant.
I have quadriplegia, hence the wheelchair I am sitting in, in the photo.

The sex isn't the problem. I am asking about how to escalate it to ensure that I have sex with her and not get LMR. In other words, what should I do to go from kissing to fucking?

P.S. I will report what happens tonight; she is coming over at 3:30 p.m. : )
Wow, first of all props for doing what you are doing and not making anything stop you, (disability and what not) keep it up!!!

And on the LMR I think all the same ideas apply, there is a tone online to check out, one of the most popular are: freeze outs, push pull, teases, etc.

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First of all, thanks for the feedback and the support.

Heres how it went down...

We were suppose to meet up at 3:30 at my house, she was bringing over some ice cream that she made, but she left it behind and had to go back and get it. Long story short, she was an hour and a half late. I teased her about it and didn't make that big of a deal. I didn't want to seem needy, so I played it cool.

After about five minutes we started making out. However, she was suppose to meet another friend in half an hour so things were being kind of rushed. I was disappointed and gave her a little shit, but didn't want to show her that I did not want her to leave (still trying to play it cool).

We made out a bunch of little times, but that was it; she made plans with me to meet up next week, but it is in a place where I won't be able to escalate. However, I could change our plans and do something else...

What would you guys have done differently? Did I play it right when she was an hour and a half late?

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I'm gonna start by saying I am a suspicious, suspicious guy when it comes to women. It sounds like you handled yourself pretty well. Given her excuse, it makes it really hard to put her on your shit list for being late because she was doing something for you. I think you did all you could, just giving her a little grief. It lets her know you're not cool with her being late, but doesn't make you look like a douche because you didn't go overboard.

But that combined with leaving after 30 minutes because she had to meet a friend look like excuses to minimize her time with you. You could push for her to stay a little longer and she might have given you a little more time, but it looks like she had that escape plan in place deliberately. I think you handled everything perfectly, but just brace yourself for disappointment. Definitely venue change. If she doesn't want to spend time with you in private, possibly she's just not comfortable with that step yet, or she's not ready to buy.


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But that combined with leaving after 30 minutes because she had to meet a friend look like excuses to minimize her time with you. You could push for her to stay a little longer and she might have given you a little more time, but it looks like she had that escape plan in place deliberately. I think you handled everything perfectly, but just brace yourself for disappointment. Definitely venue change. If she doesn't want to spend time with you in private, possibly she's just not comfortable with that step yet, or she's not ready to buy.
Yeah, I thought about pushing her for a little more time, but once again I didn't want to seem needy. I also get the impression she isn't ready for that next step too. Right before we first kissed, she told me that she wants to just be friends and that was perfect, but she also said that she gets attached really easily and it is hard for her to stay single.

So maybe she is avoiding sex to avoid getting attached to me, but I don't want to bring it up and pressure her into having sex. Even though that is all i want to do... : )

Oh yeah, on a couple of different occasions I have started kissing her on the neck and on the ear (trying to get her horny enough to stay)and she kind of resist and says, you are just trying to get me to stay. All be it that these occasion have both been when she has to leave. Maybe I should try this stuff earlier.

What would you do in this situation to escalate things? I don't want to be like let's go somewhere private. I want to make it happen more subtly...

Thanks for the help


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I think you handled everything perfectly, but just brace yourself for disappointment.
Totally agree, from what you said you did everything right.

It is a complicated situation, personally if she is resisting but at the same time she is kissing you, I would start making out and BOOM freeze, go watch TV or something, basically like a tease, just before you know she may say "we are friends blah blah" stop and do something else then repeat, you are shutting her down before she does it, leaving her wanting more....

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Yeh i agree with the support these guys have given. The next time she comes round you could say "you can only come in for a few minutes... I'm meeting some friends"

by doing this you are completely flipping the situation on it's head. She is at your house and there a level of attraction between the 2 of you... yet you are meeting your friends???? she'll be like ... ok. you have become the dominant one in the relationship. A girl needs a way of feeling comfortable round at a male's house so will use a time constraint. if you say she can't stay for long she'l feel more comfortable and not use an excuse.

Also you are giving her shit back. I bet you felt annoyed with her and almost jealous when she said she was meeting friends. If you do the same to her she'l want to stay for longer so you don't blow her off to hang with your friends... then you start escalating by kissing... then stop and say "i'm meeting my friends in like 10 minutes!!!!" then she'l try and push further so she can stay... you won't even have time to see your friends ;)

this is just a theory... tell me what's happing man.

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First of all, brilliant answers guys! I was cracking up while reading your responses because you know exactly how I feel, haha!
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by doing this you are completely flipping the situation on it's head. She is at your house and there a level of attraction between the 2 of you... yet you are meeting your friends???? she'll be like ... ok. you have become the dominant one in the relationship. A girl needs a way of feeling comfortable round at a male's house so will use a time constraint. if you say she can't stay for long she'l feel more comfortable and not use an excuse.
Okay, so do the exact same thing she did to me and I should say it early so that she has to rush to get in kisses and be intimate. That is exactly how I felt when she told me she was leaving.

However, I am not sure if the comfort thing is an issue; she has been to my house twice now and we both get ripped when she comes over, but I still think the time constraint will get her to move into action. : )
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Also you are giving her shit back. I bet you felt annoyed with her and almost jealous when she said she was meeting friends.
Damn straight, haha
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If you do the same to her she'l want to stay for longer so you don't blow her off to hang with your friends... then you start escalating by kissing... then stop and say "i'm meeting my friends in like 10 minutes!!!!" then she'l try and push further so she can stay... you won't even have time to see your friends ;)
Love it, I will update when I have plans.

Thanks guys!


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It is a complicated situation, personally if she is resisting but at the same time she is kissing you, I would start making out and BOOM freeze, go watch TV or something, basically like a tease, just before you know she may say "we are friends blah blah" stop and do something else then repeat, you are shutting her down before she does it, leaving her wanting more....

Cheers

I don't think the we are just friends talk is coming, she is down with making out and being friends with benefits, but I think your method will work regardless. : ) It is a difficult task, but I have to do it. I just hate that I have to stop kissing her... : )


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Dude, you totally misquoted me. Freeze outs are for LMR, NOT for escalating. If you do it while you're escalating, you'll look like a total freak, being fired up one second and ignoring her the next. She'll think you have ADD at best. Yeah, you can reflect her girl games back at her, but being a PUA isn't about acting like a girl. I disagree with both pieces of advice, but I'm not a PUA by any means. I'd say while you're kissing bite her neck and earlobes. Those are pretty easy weak points, but it varies by girl. That's how you escalate from kissing, which was the original question.


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Hmm, okay. My bad on misquoting you. I agree that a pua is not about imitating a girls behavior, but I want to switch the rolls of the relationship. I am not the dominant one at the moment and I am usually the one left wanting and not her... And this seems to be a more common theme for me.

Also, I have done the nibbling on the ear and sucking on her neck. That is usually how I escalate things as well : ) and she likes it, but she is resisting it at the same time.

Any other suggestions?


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Well, damn, those are pretty much my silver bullets for escalation. Not to be rude, but you can only do what you can do, right? In my experience, you end up in the girl's role by being too available, so you end up pining for the girl and working around her schedule. I'm not saying pretend you're busy and sit at home all day, that's worse than being the girl. Really, if you want to switch the roles, you're going to want to put some pokers in other fires (see other people, find something satisfying to fill your time).


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Not to be rude, but you can only do what you can do, right? In my experience, you end up in the girl's role by being too available, so you end up pining for the girl and working around her schedule. I'm not saying pretend you're busy and sit at home all day, that's worse than being the girl. Really, if you want to switch the roles, you're going to want to put some pokers in other fires (see other people, find something satisfying to fill your time).
Not sure what you mean by that first line, but sure. For me, the whole point of pickup is to get better at what I do.

I guess that is the problem, I am too available and part of that is due to my disability. I don't have to work and therefore I find it hard to fill my day with busy activities. I am going out to caffes everyday and trying to talk to people and women though and she isn't the only girl I am talking to, but I have so much free time that it always seems to leave me wanting more, but you are right I can make more with my time which would decrease that desire.

How come you think that I shouldn't fake it and pretend to be busy? Even if that just means that I go do something like going to get coffee by myself. ?Won't it give the same result and switch the tables?


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