These are basic steps/a quick overview of things I've picked up from serveral sources online over the years, enjoy

And remember preventing LMR is not 100% because all girls are different but it should help you gauge were you are at, If anyone has anymore please add.

Calabration is the key to this, for every step you take if you feel any resistance take a step or a few steps back and give her space, but don't do freeze outs stay with her, kiss her and make her comfortable enough so you can move forward but if she says no then stop, no means no.

Don't have full on makeouts in public, instead try to get her to quiet place were she can feel comfortable.

Step 1.
Take control
Makeout (pull her hair at the back)
Kiss her on the neck
Hold her in close.

Step 2.
Cup her boobs
Pull her hips into yours
Cup her pussy

Step 3.
Put her hand on your bad boy
Put your hand down her pants and finger her softly by rubbing her clit
Start to remove each others clothing (pull trousers down etc)

Step 4
Start to finger her (using the comehere technique)
Get a blow job/hand job/lick her out and get her off

(This is where you want to get her so horney she can't say no)

Step 5
Move in for sex and fuck the shit out of her

Next up, how long should you do this for.

I got this from a pornstar I seen interviewed online and she says sex should last at least 20-25 minutes for a quicky and an hour plus for nights in or whatever

So in my experience for the 20-25 minute mark 15 minutes of foreplay and about 10 minutes of penetration

For the longer periods penetration should be about 18 minutes if you want to leave an impression, thou you could cut it up into 15 minutes of foreplay 15 minutes of penetration, cuddle a little and go again as many times as you want or can manage, and try to get her off during foreplay aswell. But mix and match this doesn't have to be fallowed dogmaticly.

If you feel your going to cum
Slow down your thrusts
limit the depth of penatration
Stop fully inside her and grind a little
As a last resort pull out for a few seconds till you calm down

Ways to last longer (mix up you thrusts)
3 shallow 1 deep
5 shallow 1 deep
9 shallow 1 deep
The Nintendo reset button (press the area hehind your sack and your ass if you feel you possibly pushing yourself over the brink)

You can also count out the strokes in your head, for timing

400 strokes is about 6 minutes

1200 strokes is about 18 minutes

2400 strokes is about 36 minutes (if you can manage this you shouldn't be reading this but giving me advice!)

Techniques

Comehere (use your middle finger) insert about an inch and a half in/about three inches down from her belly button. Feel for a spongy area on the top wall, now move your finger as if you're telling someone to come here and move your hand back and forth a little. You get her off this way and LMR should not be an issue!

Stick a pillow under the small of her back as she is lying in missionary, throw her legs up over your shoulders and pump her, this will feel really deep to her and you will feel alot bigger

for more information check this link too no4-building-your-sexual-confidence-vt6 ... highlight=

This is all I can think of so lastly I'd like to say, don't rush yourself, you have to feel comfortable too, hope these helped a little.

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haha wow. honestly, if i made an attempt to count every single stroke of penetration while having sex, i'd lose my hard-on from my brain hurting.

excellent job with the post Vault, but this seems like more of an Escalation-based roadmap than an LMR-reducer.

LMR can easily be defeated by showing your willingness to stick around, even after she displays that she will not fulfill the sexual expectations that you had in mind. Freeze-Outs work the best if you ask me. (Not "asshole" freeze outs, but simply act like your dick automatically shuts off...ask her to help you play solitaire, read the newspaper with her, get her to help you clean your bathroom mirrors; [i.e. boring things]

Once she knows that you'll be there for her even after she shut down your f-close attempt, the next time she will most likely go all the way through with things.

Not saying that you have a problem with this; just as feedback for other guys who may come across this post.

[SideWinder]

It is a bit of a roadmap but I couldn't think of another cool sounding title but at the same time it will limit your LMR.

Anyway, I don't really bother with freezeouts, thou I would do them if I had tried three times or so and she still wasn't down (but thats more of a can't be bothered anymore than a freeze out I guess) I just keep trying to make her more horney and get her off, usually that will convince them but if not I wont push it overly hard on them incase I mess things up for again.

Sometimes just moving back a few steps can work wonders, like if you're ontop of her and she gives you a little LMR move into the spoon position, kiss her neck etc for a bit and try again.

I just remembered something I heard a long time ago, I think it was Sinn and Brad P talking about it, fingering a girl from reaching round from behind (facing her) gets alot less resistance than from the front and its true as far as my experience.

Then you got the whole sexual push pull teasing thing aswell were you make her horney and as soon as you hear her moan a little stop, this is excellent pre option to prevent LMR.

But in the end it all comes down to whatever works for ya, no reason why you can't try it all.

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Agreed.

I think one of the biggest mistakes a AFC/PUA can make is to act upset/fustrated/pissed after the first instance of LMR. It immediately shows that you don't have a ground-based frame/understanding about her decision, and it will eventually lead to her holding the point of power in the sexual aspects of your relationship. (That is, if another date happens after this first LMR situation.)

Because unless this girl is a slut who's down to fuck, most actually want some reassurance that the relationship will lead into something more than just a one-night-stand or a sexual relationship only.

And as far as getting them to think otherwise...that's just part of the game.

Be careful with the word slut, not because I'm offended or any bullshit like that but you should try to remove words like that from mind because it comes from a judgemental frame, even if it is from a casual point of view that means no harm.

(btw I'm not saying any of this applys to SideWinderPUA but you get what I mean its for general reading and beliefs in general)

The reason being is because the girls you could end up hooking up with for a night or whatever will only be what you consider to be "sluts" because you think thats the only type of girl that will have sex straight away.

You could be doing yourself an servere injustice by only screening through these types of girls for that, or your beliefs that girls are sluts could carry from an other relationships and mess a perfectly good one up in the future.

Thou if a girl ever cheats on you then may she burn forever!

lol just kidding, just think of it as a "person" that has betrayed you and doesn't deserve another second of your time ever again. Showing indifference in a situation like this is magic.

Plus if a women thinks your judgemental she is a million times less likely to sleep with you, so for these purposes its better to try to change your beliefs.

Never show anger or judge girls for their sexual feelings or choices.

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