Plenty of Fishesss (GIRL's Perspective on online game)



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:32 am 
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I have been on plentyoffish for about 1 month now. I figured I'd find people in my area as well as the next state over since I'm going on vacation in a few months. I send about 20 messages each time back and forth to guys, but haven't met any in person. Most guys in the area are afcs, not attractive. where I'm going on vacation, the guys in the area have a nice selection of targets, and I have had some facebook closes. Now I recieved two messages that caught my eye.

1.) attractive guy. i asked him "im good how about u? tell me more about yourself :)

his response
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well to be completely honest with you I'm just looking for someone who is looking to hook up. I like to keep my options open an see whats out there love meeting new people an trying new things ;) if your interested or want more pics just let me know if not that's cool to i understand.
Now i feel going direct with girls isn't the best idea for online game. You have to build rapport and comfort before going direct. Direct works better IN PERSON, not online. He may look good and have attractive qualities, but since he put himself out there and revealed what he wanted so soon, its more of a DLV and a turnoff for me.


2.) I was asked by another guy why I am on this site...my response
"hahaha well we all like a challenge. i'm out going and men do want me, but because of that, i never meet the one special one that treats me differently. never. and that point in the future when i do meet that guy, that sees me as i am and doesn't take me for being this gorgeous girl that i am right now. someone that can see through that and see me as a person and look past that superficiality greatness that i have...that's what i want :) how about u?

Now this was a line I learned from adam lyons in the 21 convention. I thought it's a great response to any person who asks me why I am on a dating site.

His response....
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Looks fade with time, you need to love the person you are with because eventually we all look like a bag of sh*thaha.

Let me explain what I'm looking for, i think you might like what i have to say.

I used to be all about physical attraction, as almost every guy is trained to be by not only the media, but also how women typically behave with clothes, accessories, and looking amazing to drive us nuts. We men value ourselves by how hot, and how many women we can basically lure in, almost like fishing. Its a confidence thing.

It wasn't until i met my first and only love that i really changed this perspective. I would laugh with her, and party with her, and we were best friends. Joked all the time, nothing was ever serious, we didn't fight, we discussed, and it was heaven falling asleep and waking up next to her. She was also gorgeous because of looks and personality combined. She wasn't beautiful because of makeup and shit, she was beautiful because i loved her.

Now lets talk about sex. Because she was so amazing as a person, i realized how much more i was enjoying my sex life- love=passion=AMAZING connection in bed. Note the fact i said connection. Making out with someone you love during sex, looking them in the eye and saying "this is my baby" to yourself is such a different feeling.

So, me being the guy that i am, i was blown away by what it meant to feel this way- in love. The sex is really what woke me up and told me that i had changed my views.

She and i weren't perfect for each other, but we were close. career, distance, and personality got in the way to a certain degree as we were too different, and it was a mutual heart break when it didn't work out. we tried really hard to make it work but you can't band-aid a broken leg...

Since then, i almost get disgusted by men who do just look for one night stands, and to get really embarrassing, i have told girls to go home when they want to sleep with me on the first night. Especially when they didn't ask for a condom. Not that i said no to sex with all of them but im not proud of that, we all have our needs and alcohol doesn't help decision making haha.

Granted i have had sex without a condom and i love it, but not with some girl who i barely know, and not on the first ****ing night! (if the girl was drunk i understand this, and its another reason i wouldn't wanna take advantage..plenty of things to do other than sex haha) I just wanna stay clean thanks..

So i guess to address your needs, i don't give a sh*tabout how you look, just be cute at least by staying healthy and in shape. i don't judge you by the shape of your face and sh*tit just needs to be sufficient. What i really need is to find that connection with you, and be able to be friends and enjoy talking about anything.

Plus, you need to be able to create a challenge that is more of a game in a relationship. The challenge as you say, or the chase to me, is really what keeps a fire burning in a relationship. To me, sarcasm accomplishes a lot of that because i can tease you and rip on you a bit for fun. But then when i get under your skin, i can come back and be extra nice to "apologize" for being a jerk. What i really did was push you away and then reel you back in, making the dynamic of a challenge in a relationship still exist.

Sorry i said a lot, just wanted to let you know where my head is at :)

His response, BLEW ME AWAY. I haven't ever had anyone on these dating sites respond so truthfully. On online game, we chose girls based on physical attraction, instead for who they really are. Then again we get caught up on looks and when we go out and meet them in person, they aren't the person we expected them to be. We have to keep in mind that attraction is important, as well as a connection. we all have different goals with our game, dealing with fcloses, finding a realtionship, or just for fun. In the end it's all about the connection, which is what I realized I had been missing when I was searching the whole time for something that I wasn't sure was there.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:46 am 
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Honestly: online dating is insanely infuriating and frustrating whether you're a guy who wants to fuck every one or a genuine nice guy and let me explain why

It doesn't matter how you talk to women (Specially on PoF):

Nice guys will be treated like you have some hidden agenda and that you're only playing nice to get under the covers.

Perverts will be treated just like perverts and nothing else. Obviously this guy is just trying to score so they ignore it and move on.

Now of course, you can find girls who are as easy as saying "hey what's up" but you definitely don't want those girls.. trust me.. learned the hard way. They're all insane lunatics and usually have something.. and if they're that easy to get to, you're not the only guy they're doing it with or meeting up with.

Honestly, I hate online dating.. it's horrible and it's frustrating but until I can afford to move to a big city, this is all I have.

Building a rapport online basically starts with making them laugh, but even then if you send a harmless joke, they know your agenda.. no matter what message you send, it seems girls just think you're trying to score.

Now, if you're a great looking guy.. it really doesn't matter what you send because.. well it doesn't matter. For the people who need to come up with clever scenarios or lines, it gets tricky.

I'm sure there's people who have great success with online dating but it's insanely frustrating and I've hit a dry spell for quite a long time with online women.. I'm pretty sure it's my pictures though, which is slowing me down.. I need a damn camera.


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 1:55 am 
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Brunette, just out of curiosity are you actually a woman? The gender of your pronouns in the last paragraph made this distinction a little confusing to me, so I can't tell if you're feigning the identity of a woman to see how guys are... or something.

Anyway, the goal of a user of an online dating site should be to be as honest as possible if they're looking to make solid connections. In this specific case, you both were looking for something real and it's awesome that you happened upon each other to make that connection.

Good luck!

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