"Women arent as concerned with you're looks as you might think. What they are really assessing is you're "social ranking" among the other males. Whenever a cool person endorses you, it raises you're status in the minds of women. It indicates that you must have attractive qualities, and they will automatically be curious to know more."

I support this message.

Interesting- i might test it out

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'Nothing is impossible to a willing mind'

completely agree

ok i have been watching this thread and it poses a question from me: do women care about social value as much as men care about looks?

I mean it makes sense because women are hardwired to look for attractive qualities in a mate for the intentions of rearing a child, and the most alpha or socially ranked guys usually gets the best girls

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'Nothing is impossible to a willing mind'

This is incredibly true!
But after you get to know someone, you will eventually come to the conclusion they're just human, like me and you..
Suddenly that person isnt as high as you thought..
I know this, because in my early highschool years, i used to want to fit in with some cool kids, you know.
The Alpha males of the class? If u reached that rank and hanged with them, i realized that they are no diffrent from me, they also have their insecurities.
I remember one time there was a PUA on Oprah or some kind of show
He said: Dont be afraid of Woman, they look so high when you see them walking on the street.
But the same girl is struggling to fit in her skinny jeans at night''
I loved that, it showed that everyone is sometimes insecure and no ones perfect.
All the woman on the show thought he was a jerk after that haha

Personally I believe that - within reason - looks are almost irrelevant to how a woman views a man's attractiveness. Years of looking at life leads me to think that a mix of confidence and off handed social savoir faire is the basic attribute they are attracted to.

Possessing that does not close the deal but it gives one cards to play. Personally I am objectively quite good looking: tall, slim, good posture, good skin etc etc but that counts for nothing if one does not have the confidence and savvy.

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What are we all trying to do? To learn. To become what we can be.

A little trick, when in a group of people, always stand next to the wall; that way it appears as though the conversation is centered around you.

Short, Sweet, and to the point. Beautiful post

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I hate to be a dick, but I disagree with this statement to an extant.

I'm a very popular and I'm always great in social situations, making friends and meeting people etc.

The thing is, girls almost always seem to view me as a friend, no matter what I do. I could be the centre of attention of a group, making everyone laugh and DHVing myself, but it doesn't seem to change opinions on me.

Girls are usually close to me, but not in the way I'd like. It feels like I have no problem building rapport with anyone, it's just they don't seem to view me any more than friends.

I don't know whether there's something I'm doing wrong down the line, there's plenty of cocky funny and the occassional neg.

Any suggestions as to where I'm going wrong would be great.

Oh and trust me, Looks doesnt mean anything.

I'm not bad looking but just as an example I called my one-itus and she rejects me. Whereas I know that a 5'6 asian guy who exudes confidence has/is fucking her. Yeah so I didn't get the girl it made me realise that I am going to have to change in order to get the caliber of girl that I desire. ( the birth of Chain) Maybe I should thank her for making me work on myself instead of trying to get lucky.

So anyway, you think looks matter!? It's your lack of belief in yourself that is the problem. Chicks can see it, even if they cant put their finger on it.

May the best man win.

I agree with this but at the same time I wouldn't rule out looks!
An attractive confident guy will pick up more girls over the confident guy.. and by attractive I don't mean you have to be naturally good looking but a guy who dresses well, grooms himself well and takes pride in his appearance.

Looks matter to both guys and girls and to think it doesn't means you're lying to yourselves. Both Style and Gambler both talk about improving your appearance in their books.

Buy some new clothes, use some skin products, hit the gym and change your diet etc etc and you will feel more attractive and confident

On that note Neill is about of a 2/10 naturally. Though because he made the effort he is like a 9 out of 10