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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:01 pm 
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There's this girl,
I met her a while ago(pretty long time..)
and everything went well, I know there is sexual atraction
I can speak with her very comfortably, here comes the big but...
she's got a boyfriend :?
she actually titerally said to me once, your my second choise :O

what do I do to make her want me more than her boyfriend?


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What goes around comes around.


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which means?


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she actually titerally said to me once, your my second choise :O
2nd sucks.
And your situation sucks as well buddy. She's got you on a leash.

She knows that you like her and that she could have you if she wanted. When she told you that you were her second choice, you should have answered "What makes you think you'd ever be in my plans?", or something along those lines.

What I recommend to do right now is kind of freeze her out, chat up some other girls, show her that you have OPTIONS and that she isn't #1, that infact, she's your "third choice".

If she tells you that you've been acting weird/distant lately, just tell her you were very busy. Show her that you have a life, and that if she wants to somehow be part of it, she'll need to jump on it and make some decisions.

But most importantly, show her that you aren't interested. Most important thing when a girl has a boyfriend, is for HER to chase YOU.

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Thanks, that's very helpfull and very true.
when I was out with some friends I was chatting and flirting with this HB8
which is a friend of her's and she looked very jelous and I ever overheard her saying he's mine.. :P
I'm not much of a pua yet and didn't close her, though she was giving obvious IOI's :/

But I'm seeing this girl(with the bf) tonight again at the radio (not getting into much detail of that) I need to go there once every 2 weeks, so does she but the other week, she asked me (like olmost alwase) to come there her week too(which is tonight) and I said Ok,

do I need to show disinterest today already?
because that'll be kinda weird since she asked me earlier today to come there while holding my hand 'n stuff, simple IOI's ..

Please reply quickly since I'm going to the radio tonight


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Thanks, that's very helpfull and very true.
when I was out with some friends I was chatting and flirting with this HB8
which is a friend of her's and she looked very jelous and I ever overheard her saying he's mine.. :P
I'm not much of a pua yet and didn't close her, though she was giving obvious IOI's :/

But I'm seeing this girl(with the bf) tonight again at the radio (not getting into much detail of that) I need to go there once every 2 weeks, so does she but the other week, she asked me (like olmost alwase) to come there her week too(which is tonight) and I said Ok,

do I need to show disinterest today already?
because that'll be kinda weird since she asked me earlier today to come there while holding my hand 'n stuff, simple IOI's ..

Please reply quickly since I'm going to the radio tonight
First off, congrats on chatting up that other girl, and also congrats on not closing with her. If she's her friend it would have been rude for you to hook up with her, and she might have been offended by that. Try to game some girls she doesn't know!

Secondly, if your only going to the radio once every 2 weeks, why in hell would you also go her week? If she really wants to see you that bad, next time tell her that she should come when its YOUR week!

What she is doing is that everything she doesn't get from her BF (cuddling, holding hands, comforting and all that crap), she gets it from you. So for her its the perfect combo.
You need to shake her comfort zone a bit.

If you can (if its not a job or whatever), you should arrive late. About 15-20 minutes. That way she will start wondering where you are, maybe even text you (if she does, don't answer back). All of this will make her think about YOU, thus lift your value.
If she asks why you were late simply reply "I had things to do". Don't tell her anything more, stay mysterious.

You should show disinterest to her, but not at a huge level. No more holding hands and that bull crap if another dude is getting in her pants while all you can do is touch her fingernails.
Act as if your busy on your phone texting all the time, she'll get wondering whats going on with you.
If there are other people there, make sure you spend some time with them, not all your time, but some time.

Act cool, relaxed but special. You want everyone in the room to think that you are the top gun.

Don't be mean or rude to her though by trying to loose interest in her, that would create some useless issues.

hope this helps

CW


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Again thanks for the great advise,
Well I luckely wasn't stupid enough to go to the radio without her coming in my week, and while I'm typin this I am doing your other technique of being late ;)
and hobbit too, thanks for the link. it's very simmilar to the boyfriend destroyer technique I found earlier today.

my question is which one is better : (copy pasted)
(the techniques are both basicly the same, but the other one is without telling about you being her BF)

you build up her BF with:

"You know what? It sounds like you guys are totally in love. I can totally tell that he's the PERFECT guy for you and you will ALWAYS be together. In fact, I bet he'll propose to you soon and you'll get married and have kids and live in a nice house with a white picket fence. And you know, I just couldn't live with myself if I ruined the rest of your life with him because he is your PERFECT BOYFRIEND."

Then she starts bashing her own boyfriend ("Well, sometimes he's mean to me. Blah blah blah") and you say,

"Well, if I was your boyfriend, I wouldn't be like that at all. I would call you three times a day JUST to find out where you were and what you were doing and who you were with. I would get mad if you didn't call me EVERY day because I would love you SOOOOO much. I would go out drinking with the guys every weekend so you could have your personal space to do whatever it is that girls do... I don't know, cooking and cleaning and such. Oh, and I would forget all our anniversaries and break up with you on valentines day."

or the same technique but without saying how u would be as the BF
or is this a real good addition(by letting her think of me as way better than what is posted here above, getting higher value)

thank you guys already for the great advise I got already ;)


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Again thanks for the great advise,
Well I luckely wasn't stupid enough to go to the radio without her coming in my week, and while I'm typin this I am doing your other technique of being late ;)
and hobbit too, thanks for the link. it's very simmilar to the boyfriend destroyer technique I found earlier today.

my question is which one is better : (copy pasted)
(the techniques are both basicly the same, but the other one is without telling about you being her BF)

you build up her BF with:

"You know what? It sounds like you guys are totally in love. I can totally tell that he's the PERFECT guy for you and you will ALWAYS be together. In fact, I bet he'll propose to you soon and you'll get married and have kids and live in a nice house with a white picket fence. And you know, I just couldn't live with myself if I ruined the rest of your life with him because he is your PERFECT BOYFRIEND."

Then she starts bashing her own boyfriend ("Well, sometimes he's mean to me. Blah blah blah") and you say,

"Well, if I was your boyfriend, I wouldn't be like that at all. I would call you three times a day JUST to find out where you were and what you were doing and who you were with. I would get mad if you didn't call me EVERY day because I would love you SOOOOO much. I would go out drinking with the guys every weekend so you could have your personal space to do whatever it is that girls do... I don't know, cooking and cleaning and such. Oh, and I would forget all our anniversaries and break up with you on valentines day."

or the same technique but without saying how u would be as the BF
or is this a real good addition(by letting her think of me as way better than what is posted here above, getting higher value)

thank you guys already for the great advise I got already ;)
BLUE=Good Idea
RED=Bad Idea

The idea here is to decrease her bf's value without bashing him yourself. Basic reverse psychology. "Oh you guys look so perfect. Seems like you have no problems. [Enter BF's name] seems like the perfect guy."
*Girl starts bashing her BF*

At this point, you shouldn't say that you are better or whatever because this will come off as obvious. AVOID what you said in RED. I would continue and say something along the lines of "Oh no he can't be that bad..."
*Girl bash's even more*

You don't need to tell her that you would be the better guy, she needs to notice it, and tell you and be like "Oh i'm sure your not like that with women bla bla bla". In anyways, don't try to sell yourself, if your doing things right, she'll notice it herself!


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show some disinterest, and work on displaying social proof and preselection to her. flirt with other girls in front of her, let her know that you have many options. 8)


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the idea was (well not mine but on internet :P) was by talking yourself down, because, since when is breaking up on valentines day a good thing? :s
she will think of you better as that

but, guess your right. I'm better sticking on the "oh your BF is the perfect guy"

and btw, yesterdag(at radio) it worked perfect.
she was looking for my attention the whole time,
and when I did not answer her IOI's, she worked even harder
even when I walked just a few steps away, she followed my lead
and after radio she wanted me to cycle with her, because the way home is partly the same. but as today is the exams stunt yesterday people were ruining the school, so I said I was going there and she even went with me there because she wanted me to go with her.

I'ts now really going the other way around, and I'm getting her on my leash,
ty very much for all your help :)


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the idea was (well not mine but on internet :P) was by talking yourself down, because, since when is breaking up on valentines day a good thing? :s
she will think of you better as that

but, guess your right. I'm better sticking on the "oh your BF is the perfect guy"

and btw, yesterdag(at radio) it worked perfect.
she was looking for my attention the whole time,
and when I did not answer her IOI's, she worked even harder
even when I walked just a few steps away, she followed my lead
and after radio she wanted me to cycle with her, because the way home is partly the same. but as today is the exams stunt yesterday people were ruining the school, so I said I was going there and she even went with me there because she wanted me to go with her.

I'ts now really going the other way around, and I'm getting her on my leash,
ty very much for all your help :)
Congrats that is exactly what you want to do! Don't forget, shes the one with the boyfriend, she needs to chase you!

Keep us updated with how the events go in the future!

CW


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I'll do that (Y) :D


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She's going away to londen (school trip) for a week.
so I guess freeze her out for that time?

EDIT:"yeh, I forgot. havn't got her number anymore.(new mobile)
so best thing to do, not to get her number and not text her in vacation

or should I get her number again and see if she sends me a text


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